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To: Ichy Smith who wrote (203281)	9/17/2006 12:47:16 PM
From: HH	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Excellent input from the General. One question..... he wrote: There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). (see nazis.testimony.co.uk a.htm ) Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian or any others. did Hitler herd Christians into concentration camps? Where did these 5-6 million Christian killings occur? anybody know what he is talking about???

To: Ichy Smith who wrote (203281)	9/17/2006 2:11:07 PM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

What a bunch of lying BS!! 1979 my foot??? U.S. greed and oil is to blame for all of this. Well why in the hell don't you go a bit further back than 1979 and look at the U.S. CIA led coup d'etat to put brutal U.S. fascist puppet Shah of Iran to replace the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Iran Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. So give me a freaking brake. You neoCONs just love to lie and make up stories when the reality is that you yourselves and your own GREED is 100% to blame. Sheesh...

To: Ichy Smith who wrote (203281)	9/17/2006 2:15:44 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It's a fake you dummy. With cowards like you in our midst cringing and supporting an illegal war because a handful of criminal thugs drove planes into buildings....you'll bet we'll lose...our minds. You're the fifth column, trying to create conflict because you have nothing better to do. =========http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/chong.asp Claim: Essay by retired Air Force general analyzes the war on terrorism. Status: False. Example: [Collected via e-mail, 2005] Origins: The above-quoted essay about the war on terrorism is yet one more example of misattribution through e-mail forwarding. Although USAF Major General (Dr.) Vernon Chong is indeed a real person, the essay was not written by him; it was something he came across and forwarded to an acquaintance via e-mail, thereby attaching his name to it and inadvertently causing other recipients to erroneously assume he was its author. This essay was actually written by an attorney and began circulating back in mid-2004 under the title "THE WORLD SITUATION — A LETTER TO MY SONS," with the following opening: This was written by a retired attorney, to his sons, May 19, 2004. Dear Tom, Kevin, Kirby and Ted, As your father, I believe I owe it to you to share some thoughts on the present world situation. We have over the years discussed a lot of important things, like going to college, jobs and so forth. But this really takes precedence over any of those discussions. I hope this might give you a longer term perspective that fewer and fewer of my generation are left to speak to. To be sure you understand that this is not politically flavored, I will tell you that since Franklin D. Roosevelt, who led us through pre and WWII (1933 - 1945) up to and including our present President, I have without exception, supported our presidents on all matters of international conflict. This would include just naming a few in addition to President Roosevelt - WWII: President Truman - Korean War 1950; President Kennedy Bay of Pigs (1961); President Kennedy - Vietnam (1961); eight presidents (5 Republican & 4 Democrat) during the cold war (1945 - 1991); President Clinton's strikes on Bosnia (1995) and on Iraq (1998). So be sure you read this as completely non-political or otherwise you will miss the point. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII). The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means. First, let's examine a few basics: Somewhere along the chain of multiple forwardings, someone rewrote the first few paragraphs and mistakenly attributed the entire piece to General Chong.