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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (78287)	9/17/2006 10:37:16 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 173976

War Hero Webb Wins TV Debate with "Macaca" Allen huffingtonpost.com Notice how Allen still supports the war and Bush even after both have been proven huge mistakes. Webb won the Navy Cross in combat. "Macaca" Allen is a jock frat boy like GW Bush who avoided every risking a scraped knee for his country but has no problem watching lower class boys die for his lies.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (78287)	9/18/2006 4:24:44 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

And Ho played the American left like a fiddle. wrong ... Ho did approach us early on with great sincerity , several times and did not want the conflict that was to befall. We had every out b4 it began. And now were up against the same thing but with even more caveats & their own propaganda machines and historical validation for hating us . Back then we played ourselves and were completely vicious in the extreme and lied to ourselves .... and NVC a 4th rate nation at the time , defeated us soundly. --->and they were only rice growers . again , we got lost to a 4th rate asian nobody country with nothing but peasants as an adversary . (keep learning, you'll get there...its not about military power & "intelligence"..easily if we had that in place , there would not have been even the feintest possibility of a 9/11 ..but history repeated itself.)

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (78287)	9/18/2006 4:47:15 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

when you think about the first tower going down ...and then they let a 2nd tower get hit too? How many minutes later laz ??? I sat there and watched it that morning in RT , Laz right here ...was the first on SI to say this is an attack and i'll find you that post ....i was sure of it instantly when the first plane hit and stated so on my thread which became #1 on SI for the next 6mos then . And could have told you 10yrs before it was going to happen . where was the defense for the prevention of the strike on the 2nd tower? That i sat there and looked as that 2nd airliner hit ...i was dazed and amazed at what idiots in the pentagon let that happen and did not have that 2nd tower fully surrounded by squadron of aircraft & attack helicopters airborne within 3mins. And those were my main thoughts at the time , what preparedness , what complete BS... blame it on whomever you will. * Many many heads should have rolled for that ...now go pound some liberals , but don't fool with me . I'm not an idiot and not to be drawn into emotional BS.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (78287)	9/18/2006 5:29:35 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

PS: And any idiot could have figured out we were at war with Terrorists going back to the Munich massacres of 1972 , and the hijackings that followed . They should be doing IQ tests at the Pentagon....before its too late . Oh well , we have even another decade to muddle thru of such a brain trust. (are we learning yet ?) PPS : Its not to say that we don't do a lot of good in the world too , there are forms of stabilization the US creates in spheres that are to be commended too, but we could use a little more intelligence and finesse, and i have my doubts about certain professional arms at times.