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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (9459)	9/19/2006 2:01:22 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217742

Hawk, it would be interesting to see what the charming Chinese troops did to persuade the Tibetans to vote to be annexed to the rule of Beijing. I don't believe CNN cameras and swarms of journalists were on site documenting what they could. I haven't heard of many or any prosecutions of over-zealous Chinese troops - maybe they are all saintly Buddhist types working through love, reason and harmony. Saddam was boss by force. Therefore, it's fair enough that anyone else, including foreign countries, have a go at being the new boss if they want to chance their arm. While I don't have data, I suspect that overall, Iraqis were in favour of beating Saddam's rule. What I did see was fear. Same as I saw in the 50th celebrations when everyone was obviously cowed by those in charge - it was in their body language. Sitting bolt upright. One of my favourite pictures was a Saddam meeting in which all the blokes were around the big table, with him holding forth at the end. Everyone had their hands resting on the table. Nobody had one, or two, hands resting in their lap, leaning back or looking anywhere except in genuflecting fear towards the great, estimable and terrifying boss. It was a LOT more than good manners. Same in China, though not so terrified. They were more like totally disciplined to obedience without question. Mqurice

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (9459)	9/19/2006 8:22:29 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217742

Good morning HMoon, <<civil war ... When I see more than one side raising actual military formations of armed soldiers which to defend any incursion from an opposing side>> ... by 'actual', I take you mean in genuine uniform, with formal command and control structure, backed by controlled population, etc ... stiff definition, very unbecoming of any wishing to exhibit common sense, but OK, we will work with that, and watch the progression. What if simply ragtag units without standard uniform, but responding to make-shift but never the less effective C&C operating in the same arena with no formal demarcation of sections? <<... "Medium Intensity Conflict (MIC) and we ain't there yet because the government still has the ability to force the enemy from being emboldened sufficiently to reveal themselves publicly>> I noticed you used the word 'yet'. An astute choice of framing. <<his motive pure since he's trying to invoke the apocalypse and return of the Mahdi (which Ahmadinejad also aspires to do)>> ... so, we agree, no pure motives on all sides. <<democratic USA on the same level surface as China? ... Sudan>> ... I was merely expecting better of democratic USA, and am disappointed, along with the ROW, apparently, and note the trajectory of USA and China are noticeably progressing in opposing directions. Some would say that, on Sudan, it is an forced issue, caused in part by USA choice, when it refused to honor the USD offered for oil companies. Spin can be used all different ways, especially when they have an element of truth. So, how many soldiers is the USA sending to Sudan? Or is it too stretched enforcing force of arms in a lot of other places? <<just wait until some Chinese soldiers are captured and beheaded by Hizbullah terrorists. Then we'll see how observant your soldiers are of unilaterally observing the Geneva Conventions with an enemy that doesn't neither recognizes, nor abides by, the GC.>> ... I am as curious as the next person. The event ought to happen, else the ME is not the ME, and when so, the beheading may be traced to any number of suspect organizations, with HQ in Israel, Syria, Iran, USA, etc. The reaction, I suspect, will be equally predictable, and will be disciplined as opposed to disciplining, and will certainly not involve any collective punishment. That is my wager. Chugs, J