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To: Ichy Smith who wrote (203905)9/21/2006 10:58:23 PM
From: pompsander  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
What if the reporter had said instead: "Senator, there are reports you may have jewish origins. The jews have been a discriminated against minority for thousands of years. Considering your history of displaying a confederate flag, even in campaign commercials, are you now more sensitive to the dismay expressed by some of your black constituents? If so, explain how your recently obtained knowledge has changed your perspective".



To: Ichy Smith who wrote (203905)9/21/2006 11:24:34 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
This is nonsense. That was NOT her question. This was her question:

Following the macaca episode, the Jewish press published a story on the Internet that explored your possible Jewish ancestry on your mother's side. You've been quoted as saying your mother's not Jewish, but it had been reported her father, your grandfather Felix, whom you were given your middle name for, was Jewish. Could you please tell us whether your forebearers include Jews, and if so, at which point Jewish identity might have ended?

That is in no way equivalent to "So senator, how was the holocaust for your family?" She didn't "know more than the Senator did" (he had been told at least a couple of months earlier). There is no shame in being Jewish, Allen might even have helped eliminate some of the anti-semitism that remains in this country if he had answered it, he could have educated people about religious persecution and the fear of being a minority. But no, he chose not to do those things. The questioner was giving him a gift that he refused to take.

He is a small minded guy, IMO. I doubt this revelation will hurt or help him very much, except perhaps it will turn Jewish people who feel the same way I do against him. If someone wants to convert from anything to anything, that is their business, but to deny your past, to hide, and, if you are in the position he is in, to neglect to educate people about the problems that minorities face--that is not a person I would for.



To: Ichy Smith who wrote (203905)9/22/2006 9:13:29 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
But Sam, that was in effect what the answer was. She knew the answer before she asked the question. She knew all the answers, prior to asking the senator.

So if she knew that his Grandfather had been imprisoned by the nazis and his mother became an Anglican I am sure the Senator said she was an Anglican, and never ever spoke of it. She knew that. She is a reporter remember, she never asks a question without knowing the answer.

Her question in reality was "So senator, how was the holocaust for your family"
she knew more than the Senator did, she knew it, and she asked anyway.


Hogwash.

It was first published in the Jewish newspaper, The Forward. Are you going to tell me they are anti-semetic?

jttmab



To: Ichy Smith who wrote (203905)9/22/2006 10:03:52 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Wrong queston. Should have been "Do you think the Jews want you?".
This one doesn't.