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To: Richnorth who wrote (1762)	9/26/2006 10:26:54 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

The Nazis were friends with the radical Palestinians not with the Jews in Israel/Palestine. In the early days of the Nazi regime the though might have been "let them go and we won't have to deal with them", esp. if the Nazis got money to let them go. If that was the case that doesn't mean there was any active cooperation. A captive paying ransom isn't part of some sort of conspiracy with his captor. Some of the specific assertions in the story might be true, at the very least there are some specific assertions I can't prove to be false. But if any of the article is true (and I suppose some of it is, the best lies contain some truth), they are spinned and distorted to an unreasonable extent. (My main source is "The Secret Contacts" by Klaus Polkehn a prominent German journalist. It is included in Olivia O'Grady's The Beasts of the Apocalyse, 2001, 421-447.) So that's your source. What your reason to consider that source credible? The "British" are really the London-based international banking cartel associated with names like Rothschild and Rockefeller. It doesn't answer to any government. Its goal is to colonize the world and everyone in it. Jews are a means to this end. Ah yes, more conspiracy theories. Specifically, Jews helped the British-Jewish elite colonize the oil-rich Middle East That's a rather silly statement. Israel doesn't control any significant amount of oil. Hitler was sponsored by the banker oligarchy, and may have been their pawn. What an odd little mental world you live in. Certainly the Nazis received millions of dollars from New York and London. Its hardly unusual for banks to lend money to the leaders of countries. Banks are out to make money. If they think they can make it from the Nazis then they would have tried to make it from the Nazis. The Nazis might not have exactly been popular before WWII but the level of threat they presented was underestimated by most people. The cooperation may have extended to the Jewish Holocaust and explain why most Jews passively accepted their fate. What a load of crap, and offensive crap at that. Some Jews probably did passively accept what was happening to them, because they thought passive acceptance would mean they would get to live, that they would just be abused or discriminated against or imprisoned but not killed. Others might have been severely intimidated or had their spirits broken by the monstrous evil of the Nazis. But they did not march off to the concentrations camps and the gas chambers in order to help get support for the creation of Israel.

To: Richnorth who wrote (1762)	9/26/2006 11:40:00 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10087

Rich, you are being accused of bigotry by more than one person on this thread, not as an exercise in namecalling but in an attempt to accurately label your conduct here. You have posted a great deal on subjects related to Jewish history. I have looked for some evidence to show me that you are not simply posting to express an anti-jewish view point, and I have found no such evidence. Before contributing any more to this subject, I am requiring you to make your case to justify bigotry toward Jews (warning, I don't believe bigotry can ever be justified), or you can try to convince the group here that your presentation is not bigoted. But, no more anti-Jewish history until you have done that. You can, of course, also decide to drop it and move on other topics of interest.