To: lonesomemoose1 who wrote (71977 ) 9/26/2006 2:56:09 PM From: diana g Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 206087 <OT> About 'Offensive' Jokes --- People tell jokes about other people. This is just human nature. The Japanese tell jokes about Koreans and visa versa. Norwegians tell Swedish jokes and visa versa. The French and English have jokes about each other. This is universal. In my opinion it doesn't really indicate anything about someone if they tell a joke about some ethnic group. If I hear a joke about a Scotsman who "...was so cheap that..." I don't infer that the joke-teller is bigoted against Scots. But if someone jumps up to declare that joke offensive, I think their reaction says a lot about them. Especially if they aren't a member of the group being joshed and are being offended on someone else's behalf. What's behind that do you suppose? Although people who are quick to be offended by harmless ethnic jokes usually think of themselves as having high-minded principles which inspire their outrage, I suspect there are very different causes underlying their reactions. When I was a kid my Uncle Boo told me that if anyone said something that offended me or made me mad, the first thing I should do was examine my own reaction. Look into myself to figure out what buttons were being pushed and why those buttons were there to be pushed. It's really much more interesting than becoming indignant and calling out for censorship, and I recommend it to all offended persons whose high principles have been outraged by ethnic jokes. I saw a documentary about Albert Einstein recently which included a number of interviews with people who had known him. One old friend said that Albert loved a good Jew joke. Al saw the humor in a joke about the idiosyncrasies and foibles of his own ethnic group. We should all aim for that attitude, I think, and expect it of others. Of course there are jokes and there are jokes. But most ethnic jokes aren't intended to be hurtful. Like the recently posted one that ends "...I must be the luckiest Arab in Belfast!" (which I liked a lot, btw) they just play on human foolishness as it manifests itself in different groups and individuals. Most jokes' intention is not to insult or demean anyone in any serious way. And intention is the important thing, isn't it? The intention of the joke-teller, I mean. Is it ever appropriate to take offense when no offense was intended? regards, diana