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To: Suma who wrote (205106)	10/3/2006 5:50:20 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Suma, your admiration for Rice is misplaced. I've seen her type far too often. Information without knowledge, knowledge without insight and insight without wisdom; I think those attributes are characteristic of Rice. She can "learn" anything without "knowing" much. Has she ever, even once, distinguished herself by coming up with a real solution to any complex problem? In her service pre-9/11 as the National Security advisor, post 9/11 as the National Security Advisor and dealing with the war on terror and the war in Iraq, or as the Secty of State, her record is hard work without result. Her real forte is hard work, blind loyalty and ironclad ideological purity. She's a nodding-head follower who was promoted because she adores whoever is in charge and can repeat anything she's told with great accuracy. People like that, with ambition, are deadly viruses when they gain power. When you add in the fact that she's clearly been willing to say anything to her advantage, true or not, I don't see what there is about her to admire. Do you want an example? With regard to the July terrorism warning meeting with Black and Tenant she said that she was paying very careful attention pre-9/11 to the threat of terrorism. She says that if any meeting had occurred with Tenant she would have acted on it. Yet, when asked about the meeting with Tenant and Black, she didn't remember it. Do you think that if the head of the CIA and the man in charge of terrorism for the CIA had called you on a car phone requesting an immediate meeting and told you, in that meeting, that they thought the threat of a major attack was nearing a crisis point and was coming soon, you'd recall that? You would, if you really were paying attention. You might not, however, if you were a typical paper shuffler who wasn't wise enough to discern the difference between marbles and bowling balls falling toward your feet. And then, of course, she didn't do anything with the stern and serious warning she got; like all bureaucrats she wanted more study. So she either wasn't paying attention and didn't do anything, or she was paying attention, didn't do anything and is now lying. What's to admire as a leader in a person like that? Ed

To: Suma who wrote (205106)	10/3/2006 6:12:11 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

Rice is way over her pay grade. She has this high powered position, she's an intelligent and educated person but she keeps on sitting around in this state of learned-helplessness waiting for someone to tell her what to do, when to do it, why she should do it and how she she do it. She's not a high powered person, she's a little child. She's easy. She's easy to put up as the face of this and that an organization because she goes along to get on. I find it astonishing that she wanted to be Defense Sec. This is the person who sat around for months thinking about Russia and SDI because that was her specialty. She showed zero initiative, zero concern for her responsibilities to the American Public. I'm not sure what's wrong with her but I think there's some serious lack of activity going on in her brain.