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To: Ichy Smith who wrote (205233)	10/5/2006 4:38:16 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I think you need to look at Foley from the "Daily Kos" "Democratic Underground" mind set, which is rather puerile and shallow. In their minds, all Republicans are Religious Right, and not just Religious Right, but ones who think homosexuals should be burned at the stake. It never crosses their minds that this cartoon image bears little resemblance to reality. Thus, it also never crosses their minds that Foley was NOT in the closet but lived and socialized with a boyfriend back home. He didn't flaunt his sexual preferences, he kept his private life private, but he didn't do as so many closeted homosexuals have done and get married to put on a show. Good for him. He resigned because it was a breach of House ethics, something that, again, the "Daily Kos" and "Democratic Underground" can't imagine. He did something wrong that many others have done, Republicans and Democrats both, but he got caught, and he resigned, which was the right thing to do. Would that Democrats in his shoes had that much decency. It goes a little way towards restoring one's faith that the institution knows the meaning of that word, decency.

To: Ichy Smith who wrote (205233)	10/6/2006 10:49:57 AM
From: Keith Feral	Respond to of 281500

If my son went to Washington and was seduced by a Senator, I would sue him for sexual harrassment for $20 million. The corruption of a young man by a homosexual senator is beyond belief. If they can't get him on criminal charges, they should fry to sob for civil charges. I find the Studds defense of Foley revolting. Just because the Democrats found nothing wrong with the relationship between Studs and his page, does not mean that sexual harrassment was not in place, even if the young man was involved in consensual sex. You JUST can't allow consensual sex in the workplace. It will get you fired in almost any company in the US. Sexual harrassment laws are very tough in the American workforce. It should be the same for the US Congress, for crying out loud. If Foley didn't break any laws, there is not much left for the republicans to say. However, you can't have Senators engaging in the seduction of teenage boys. I completely reject the attitude that young boys are attracted by older women and therefore it is ok for young homos to want to have sex with older men. When I was 18, I would have been revolted by the thought of having sex with my favorite female teachers. Now, as for having sex with my favorite female teachers' daughters, now that was a different story. I think a few things are obvious, we need to change the age of consent to 18 if they are involved with people over the age of 21. Let kids enjoy some time of their life when they are free from being treated as a piece of ass, especially girls and homosexual boys. In reality, most of them aren't coming out of the closet til they get out of college to avoid dealing with anti gay attitudes anyways. The spin on the whole thing was gracefully solved by Foley himself, who rightfully recognized his shame and corruption. I doubt that he is sitting in rehab wondering why Studds was allowed to have his younger lover. The man was totally correct to admit himself to alcohol rehab and terminate his career. It is totally unheard of for a person of his position to come clean and recognize his own responsibility. His career is over in public office. Maybe he can savage his self respect down the road after he works the steps to pull his life together. If he can forgive himself and accept his responsibility, there will be a much better life for him. Anything must be better than the living hell he was in before with the drinking and this homosexual tension. Once he puts his drinking past him, I doubt there will even be a homosexual problem. Foley is the only one to worry about his own future. The more that conservatives act to defend this as an act of partisan retribution, the more the democrats will enjoy the attack. The path to least resistance is accept the fact that the liberals are used to compromised ehtical situations like the one with Studds and his boy toy and find some comfort in the fact that Foley did not have sex with the young man in question and sought professional help.