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To: KeepItSimple who wrote (57666)	10/6/2006 2:27:40 PM
From: Doren	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 213177

You guys are both right. Users are stupid and should be protected but experienced users should have more options. Take the trash can for example. Default: It should not empty without confirmation. However it should be easy for experienced users to turn this precaution off. Apple usually gets this right but it does blow it sometimes. Like changing boot volumes requires confirmation which drives me nuts.

To: KeepItSimple who wrote (57666)	10/6/2006 4:27:42 PM
From: Jeff Hayden	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

You originally said , "This also reminds me why many if not most PC users dislike Apple. They have to give up too much control, for the convenience of using Apple."<i/> To which I replied, "Well those ungratefull bastards! Apple is only trying to help those PCers out of the mud in the sty. All that 'control' they are 'missing' only leads them further into the muck. As Apple has proven, people are too ignorant to know what they want or desire. Apple shows them what they will come to want, and then works on improving it." Then you asked, "Serious question- was that statement sarcastic or is that what you actually think? A simple yes or no will suffice." And I replied. Yes and no." There is sarcasm in the statements I made - I don't think all PCers are ignorant. Note that I called the PCers ignorant, not stupid, there is a difference. I believe in most of what I stated, however. PCers really do wander around in the muck. Most of the software is buggy and generally useless, as is much of the hardware geared specifically to the PC. I look at the Windows/PC world and see a lot of companies making the most of ripping off the ignorant with software and hardware bits and pieces that should have been included in the system in the first place. White box geeks? Good for them since it is their desire to wade in the mud. Apple, on the other hand, includes everything you could reasonably want in every new machine they sell.

To: KeepItSimple who wrote (57666)	10/7/2006 1:32:00 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 213177

>>You are the embodiment of the typical snob apple fanboy who LIKES that apple is nothing but a marketing machine telling clueless people how to live.<< KIS - In a sincere effort to communicate as one human being to another, I'm going to say somethng very useful to you in this post. Whether you choose to benefit from it is up to you. Your use of phrases like "typical snob apple fanboy" demonstrates something. It demonstrates that you have accepted a generalization about a group of people, and having accepted it, you believe you know something useful. In fact, you believe you know everything you need to know about them. The truth is that when you accept derisive generalizations like that about anything you just prevent yourself from truly understanding that thing, or ever learning everything new about it. It is this bias that keeps you from understanding Apple, it's customers, or its products. (Of course, you're not the only one on the thread who has this same problem.) Here's the really useful thing I wanted to tell you - If you want to be able to learn, you have to accept two things first: 1) You don't already know everything 2) Some portion of what you do know is wrong This is true of everyone. I am always delighted when I find out that something I've "known" for years is incorrect. It makes me feel like at least that one small bit of bad information has been fixed, and that my total knowledge is improved by that much, for whatever that's worth. - Allen