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To: RMF who wrote (12815)	10/8/2006 11:51:18 PM
From: Geoff Altman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

Our OWN intelligence agencies are now telling us that Bush's policies have created MORE terrorists and made us less safe. As long as the Arabs and Persians allow Islamic schools to brainwash Muslims with anti-western propaganda and supply terrorist camps to train radicals the number of people that will choose violence means to power will continue to increase, I think they would have done so even if we weren't in Iraq. Increases in terrorism are directly related to the Mullahcracy coming to power in Iran, this happened in 1979, ample time for Iran to breed a whole generation of radicals. BTW our OWN intelligence agencies are also telling us that it will be a disaster if we pull out but it seems you missed that part or at least ignored it. When Bush came into office Iran had a reformist president and was looking at talks with the U.S. A reformist in power in Iran has a different meaning that it does in other parts of the world. Khatami was no reformer, show me the human rights reforms that he promised Iranians. Even if he'd wanted too he wouldn't be able to do squat without the support of the anti-western mullahs. There was a power struggle during his administration and he lost to the conservatives, it wasn't much of a fight being that he was seriously out numbered. They are currently in a rush program to enrich uranium and mocking Bush's impotence in their meetings with Putin and the Chinese. The present Iranian leadership is going to move against us no matter what we do. I mean really, just how much douchebaggery do you have to see being done before you believe what you see? When Bush came in N. Korea had maybe 2 nukes and they were relatively under control. Oh, bullshit. Kim Jong il promptly violated the Albright treaty and have been doing as they please ever since. China was the only country that might influence N. Korea to abandon their nuke program, other than China they're totally isolated. Yet I suppose you want the US to talk to NK again........ One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result......... "Trying to spread democracy in Iraq and the ME"...Do I really have to say anything about how THAT's workin' out. Good things are rarely easy to attain. "Removing the terror of Saddam"...Yeah, we did that. 66% of the Iraqi people now think "killing" American troops is O.K., so maybe we didn't do it quite right? This goes back to our previous discussion. I agree with Prolife, was it? that we went into Iraq with the right number of troops to oust Saddam and trounce the Iraqi army, however, IMO we did make a serious error in not upping our levels of troops to ensure security. As I stated before though there's problems that go along with that too..... "supporting Israel"...Yeah, Bush has done that. This is JUST conjecture on my part, but I'll bet a VAST majority of the Israeli people would prefer that Bush had NEVER been elected. That my friend is your opinion and you're welcome to it but IMO your attitude has more to do with sources you elect to use for news, in anycase I think you're in error.