To: Elmer Phud who wrote (213093 ) 10/10/2006 12:20:27 AM From: fastpathguru Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872 ephud,>What part of 'All the business practices AMD argues about," remarked [Intel spokesperson Chuck] Mulloy, "are lawful."' don't you get? I get it, too bad you don't. Intel says their actions were lawful, AMD says they weren't. A Court will have to decide who's right. Why is that so hard to grasp? Uhh, I don't think you're following along very well. What we're doing is moving beyond your childishly simplistic truism, which everybody including myself accepts, and exploring the implications and consequences of Mulloy's statement. BTW, you can quit with the little anthem of "You've only heard AMD's spin!", because Mulloy has effectively OFFICIALLY VALIDATED AMD's "spin", i.e. their allegations. He's read AMD's list of allegations, apparently mulled it over with Intel Legal, and proclaimed, "Yeah, so, we think it's OK to do that!" One implication of his statement is that Intel likely expects AMD to substantiate some, or many, or maybe even all of their allegations. Why would he even say that otherwise? It would be a far stronger statement to say that AMD's complaint is complete fabrication, as many Team Blue players like to portray. Mulloy's credibility, and that of the company for which he is a spokesperson, is inversely proportional to the likelyhood of any of AMD's allegations are actionable. Another implication of his statement is that if that is indeed Intel's position on the matter, i.e. the practices AMD alleges are actually legal in Intel's eyes, then are those beliefs reflected/reinforced in Intel's Sunday School antitrust classes? Are they teaching that the very practices covered by AMD's allegations are blessed by management? Yes, I expect any day now that Team Blue itself will label Mulloy's statement as "mere spin", rather than a serious statement, due to the implications that arise from it.AMD says Intel did X and that constitutes Y and it was illegal. Intel says no that's not true, yes we did do X but that constitutes Z and it's perfectly legal. You heard AMD say X=Y and you can't think beyond that point. No, ephud, that's not quite it. AMD is saying X happened, and X is illegal. Intel spokesperson Chuck Mulloy says no, X is actually legal behavior. There is no need to obfuscate with Y and Z.Let a Court decide what it was. Don't fret little ephud, that will happen whether we talk about it here or not. fpg