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To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (82726)10/11/2006 8:05:15 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 361129
 
Lidle dies as plane crashes into Manhattan high-rise

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ESPN.com news services

Wednesday, October 11, 2006

NEW YORK -- A small plane with New York Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle aboard crashed into a 50-story condominium tower Wednesday on Manhattan's Upper East Side, killing at least two people -- including Lidle -- and raining flaming debris on sidewalks, authorities said.

Federal Aviation Administration records showed the single-engine plane was registered to Lidle. A law enforcement official in Washington, speaking on condition on anonymity, said two people were aboard, and Lidle's passport was found at the crash scene. The plane had issued a distress call before the crash, according to the official.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said both people aboard were killed.

On Sunday, the day after the Yankees were eliminated from the playoffs, Lidle cleaned out his locker at Yankee Stadium and talked about his interest in flying.

He explained to reporters the process of getting a pilot's license and said he intended to fly back to California in several days and planned to make a few stops. Lidle discussed the plane crash of John F. Kennedy Jr. and how he had read the accident report on the National Transportation Safety Board Web site.

Lidle, acquired from the Philadelphia Phillies on July 30, told The New York Times last month that his four-seat Cirrus SR20 plane was safe.

"The whole plane has a parachute [that can be deployed in the event of emergency] on it," Lidle said. "Ninety-nine percent of pilots that go up never have engine failure, and the 1 percent that do usually land it. But if you're up in the air and something goes wrong, you pull that parachute, and the whole plane goes down slowly."

Lidle also talked about airplanes' safety in an interview with MLB.com in February.

"If you're 7,000 feet in the air and your engine stops, you can glide for 20 minutes," Lidle said at the time. "As long as you're careful, everything should be fine."

Lidle pitched 1 1/3 innings in the fourth and final game of the AL Division Series against the Detroit Tigers and gave up three earned runs but was not the losing pitcher. He had a 12-10 regular-season record with a 4.85 ERA.

He pitched with the Phillies before coming to the Yankees, who acquired him at the July trade deadline along with outfielder Bobby Abreu. He began his career in 1997 with the Mets. He also pitched for Tampa Bay, Oakland, Toronto and Cincinnati.

Lidle was an outcast among some teammates throughout his career because he became a replacement player in 1995, when major-leaguers were on strike.

For his career, he was 82-72 with two saves and a 4.57 ERA.

"Right now, I am really in a state of shock, as I am sure the entire MLB family is," former teammate Jason Giambi said in a statement. "My thoughts are with Cory's relatives and the loved ones of the others who were injured or killed in this plane crash. I have known Cory and his wife, Melanie, for over 18 years and watched his son grow up. We played high school ball together and have remained close throughout our careers. We were excited to be reunited in New York this year and I am just devastated to hear this news."

Rob Manfred, executive vice president of MLB, told ESPN's Karl Ravech neither of Wednesday night's championship series games would not be postponed because of the crash and Lidle's death. However, Game 1 of the NLCS between the St. Louis Cardinals and New York Mets was postponed because of a steady rain, with the best-of-seven series now set to begin Thursday night.

The twin-engine plane came through a hazy, cloudy sky and hit the 20th floor of The Belaire -- a red-brick tower overlooking the East River, about five miles from the World Trade Center -- with a loud bang, touching off a raging fire that cast a pillar of black smoke over the city and sent flames shooting from four windows on two adjoining floors.

Large crowds gathered in the street in the largely wealthy New York neighborhood, with many people in tears and some trying to reach loved ones by cell phone.

"I was worried the building would explode, so I got out of there fast," said Lori Claymont, who fled an adjoining building in sweatpants.

Young May Cha, a 23-year-old Cornell University medical student, said she was walking back from the grocery store down 72nd Street when she saw an object out of the corner of her eye.

"I just saw something come across the sky and crash into that building," she said. Cha said there appeared to be smoke coming from behind the aircraft, and "it looked like it was flying erraticaly for the short time that I saw it."

"The explosion was very small. I was not threatened for my life," she added.

Richard Drutman, a professional photographer who lives on the 11th floor, said he was talking on the telephone when he felt the building shake.

"There was a huge explosion. I looked out my window and saw what appeared to be pieces of wings, on fire, falling from the sky," Drutman said. He and his girlfriend quickly evacuated the building.

The plane left New Jersey's Teterboro Airport, just across the Hudson River from the city, at 2:30 p.m., about 15 minutes before the crash, according to officials at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates the airport. But they said they did not know where the aircraft was headed.

FAA spokeswoman Diane Spitaliere said the plane was apparently not in contact with air traffic controllers; pilots flying small planes by sight are not required to be in contact.

ABC News reported Wednesday that after Lidle's plane departed Teterboro, it took a normal flight pattern down the Hudson River and appears to have circled the Statue of Liberty, headed up the East River. It fell off the radar at about 59th Street. The apartment the plane crashed into was the entire 40th floor of the building, and it appears two other apartments on the 41st floor suffered from the impact.

The FAA said it was too early to determine what might have caused the crash. The National Transportation Safety Board sent investigators.

"This is a terrible and shocking tragedy that has stunned the entire Yankees organization," Yankees owner George Steinbrenner said in a statement. He offered his condolences to Lidle's wife and son.

Former NTSB director Jim Hall said in a telephone interview he doesn't understand how a plane could get so close to a New York City building after Sept. 11.

"We're under a high alert and you would assume that if something like this happened, people would have known about it before it occurred, not after," Hall said.

Mystery writer Carol Higgins Clark, daughter of author Mary Higgins Clark, lives on the 38th floor and was coming home in a cab when she saw the smoke.

"Thank goodness I wasn't at my apartment writing at the time," she said. She described the building's residents as a mix of actors, doctors, lawyers, writers and people with second homes.

Sgt. Claudette Hutchinson, a spokeswoman for the North American Aerospace Defense Command in Colorado Springs, Colo., said fighter jets "are airborne over numerous U.S. cities and while every indication is that this is an accident, we see this as a prudent measure at this time."

However, all three New York City-area airports continued to operate normally, FAA spokesman Jim Peters said. In Washington, White House spokesman Tony Fratto said neither President Bush nor Vice President Dick Cheney was moved to secure locations.

"All indications are that is an unfortunate accident," said Yolanda Clark, a spokeswoman for Homeland Security's Transportation Security Administration. She said there was "no specific or credible intelligence suggesting an imminent threat to the homeland, at this time."

The crash struck fear in a city devastated by the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Sirens echoed across the neighborhood as about 170 firefighters rushed in along with emergency workers and ambulances. Broken glass and debris were strewn around the neighborhood.

"There's a sense of helplessness," said Sandy Teller, watching from his apartment a block away. "Cots and gurneys, waiting. It's a mess."

The tower was built in the late 1980s and is situated near Sotheby's auction house. It has 183 apartments, many of which sell for more than $1 million.

Several lower floors are occupied by doctors and administrative offices, as well as guest facilities for family members of patients at the Hospital for Special Surgery, hospital spokeswoman Phyllis Fisher said.

Mets pitching coach Rick Peterson said Mets third base coach Manny Acta lived in the building that Lidle's plane crashed into.

No patients were in the high-rise building and operations at the hospital a block away were not affected, Fisher said.

-Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (82726)10/12/2006 2:41:40 AM
From: elpolvo  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 361129
 
pct-

It's a tragedy for everyone involved.

tragedy, yes... by definition, tragedy ends in death, right?

Do you pilot planes?

no, i'm a sailor but...

i was a flight instructor, charter pilot, air ambulance
pilot and FAA designated examiner for fixed wing, single
and multi engine, commercial and instrument pilot license
applicants.

all the media and layperson comments you're hearing today
and tonight are speculative bullshit. mostly stupid. ignore
them.

give credence only to aviation experts and official FAA
and NTSB comments. they'll withhold judgement until all the
facts are in. even in 95% of cases involving possible
mechanical failures the ultimate cause of the accident is
pilot error and the pilot-in-command was the INSTRUCTOR
(if indeed one was aboard - i don't know for sure yet). the
responsibility lies with him/her... barring intentional
murder-suicide by the student or co-pilot.

one of the stupidest comments i heard was that the instructor
may have hesitated or been slow to react because of being
star struck... ha ha. lemme tell you, i was a kid in my early
twenties during my professional pilot days... my students
included, doctors, lawyers, politicians, celebrities,
millionaires and decorated pilots from WWII. i'm neither a big
ego type or a control freak but when you are the pilot-in-
command of a plane, no amount of admiration for a student's
social stature or even past heroic flight experience is great
enough to override your responsibility and attentiveness to/for
the safe flight conduct of the aircraft. that doesn't even have to
be drilled or trained into you - it's the natural
survival instinct that gives you that power. fortunately,
it's backed up by FAA rules and regs so it's a no-brainer
as well.

99 to 1 odds say pilot error is to blame in this accident.
the interesting part for me will be to hear what the errors
were and how their disclosure may help aviation safety in the
future.

the one percent chance is that it was murder-suicide or pure
criminal negligence on the part of the student to overpower the
control of the pilot-in-command. a millionth of one percent
chance would be that the pilot-in-command committed the murder-
suicide.

BTW - the JFK jr. crash was a combination of multiple errors
by an inexperienced VFR* pilot flying into marginal VFR/IFR**
conditions.

*VFR=visual flight rules

**IFR=instrument flight rules

but don't listen to me, i don't know hardly any of the facts
yet. mine is just educated speculative bullshit as opposed to
ignorant speculative bullshit by laypersons and media. <g>

wait for the official FAA report.

-ep