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To: KLP who wrote (207000)10/26/2006 3:41:33 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<It IS 16 Great Great Grandparents > And sometimes it's not even 16. Suppose there are 16 people alive, 150 years ago. 8 females and 8 males and they were going to produce you, or me. It is quite possible that they were even living in the same village. They probably were.

They wouldn't know that they were all going to end up with the same grandchild. There would be 8 weddings and off they'd go to reproduce. There is a tendency for humans to not be totally fixed in their pair bonds. Sometimes somebody hops the fence and hey presto, a baby isn't quite like the others in a family. In a village, it wouldn't be too different, most of the time.

Given the statistics, it's unlikely that a gene pool going back that far is as accurate as the paperwork says.

Since villages had only a few hundred people in them, if that, a LOT of people must have only 15, 14, or 13 great great grandparents.

DNA tests are going to sort out a LOT of details. Like pollutants in a sewage stream, one can trace back up the pipeline and see precisely whence they came.

I found a gene in me that I had never heard of and it says one of my ancestors [at least one] lived in malarial regions. Which fits with another theory I have developed based on fragmented and unsupported details of family.

<One of the most interesting things to me is that people who came from Europe very seldom ever left their villages and what we would call local communities (maybe 50 miles in diameter) ..... >
We lived for a couple of years in Antwerp and they say Belgians are born with a brick in their stomach [meaning they get the family home and don't move anywhere or something like that - I wasn't totally certain of the meaning].

Dialects vary over quite short distances [like 50 miles] which is further evidence that people did NOT move very much at all. Which makes sense. Moving to another village is harder work than staying put.

Europe has a 1000 year timeless feel to it. They like that stability, promote, and enforce it, whether one likes it or not. Their music has a timelessness about it too, unlike hip hop culture.

Mqurice