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Politics : Actual left/right wing discussion -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jim S who wrote (4171)	11/5/2006 12:41:52 PM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10087

my grand nephew had opportunity for three scholarships full tilt. instead he joined marines. one tour of duty over in iraq. another coming later perhaps after the first of the year. I expect there are quite a few military people who believe in fighting for this country and ignore the noise. Oh, he graduated from high with honors two years ago.

To: Jim S who wrote (4171)	11/5/2006 3:35:59 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 10087

"Writing in the monthly Commentary, Chester E. Finn, Jr., a professor at Vanderbilt University, cites the dismal findings of the National Assessment of Educational Progress. "Just five percent of seventeen-year-old high school students can read well enough to understand and use information found in technical materials, literary essays, and historical documents."[2] Imagine then how hopeless it is to get the other 95 percent to read Plato or Dante -- or the Bible. "Barely six percent of them," Finn continues, "can solve multi-step math problems and use basic algebra."[3] We're not talking difficult math here but rather something as elementary as calculating simple interest on a loan." reformed.org "About 97 percent of the 1.4 million Americans serving in the active duty Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines have graduated from high school or the equivalent, according to Pentagon figures. That compares with 85 percent of all adults 25 years or older who reported they had completed at least high school, according to a 2005 survey by the Census Bureau. Roughly 17 percent of the active duty members of the military have a bachelor’s or graduate degree, the Pentagon figures show, while in the nation as a whole, 28 percent of adults reported they had at least a bachelor’s degree. Of the 274,143 Americans deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere around the world as of Sept. 30 — including members of the National Guard and Reserves — the ratios were roughly the same. About 97 percent had graduated from high school and about 16 percent from college, including 8,469 officers with master’s degrees, and 2,525 with doctorates. College graduates have historically been underrepresented because the military focuses most of its recruitment efforts on high school students, and many of them join so they can eventually earn a college degree with the help of the G.I. Bill of Rights. Recently, there have been indications that the military is inducting less-educated recruits. The Army — which has more troops in Iraq than any other military branch — has struggled in its recruitment efforts as the Iraq war has continued. High school dropouts made up 19 percent of new enlistees this year, up from 6 percent in 2003. nytimes.com And BTW, the only politics being played here is Bush telling the American people they are "stupid" because they can't recognize what a joke is... Where do you fall in?