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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (754174)	11/12/2006 8:51:25 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"I agree with Bill o'Reilly who said let the Iraqis vote on us staying or not." A very sensible idea (which is why it won't be allowed....) A question for Longnshort, or Buddy or anyone else: Assuming there was a referendum in Iraq in our staying. Let's say all Iraqis could vote. Let's say the Kurds voted 90% that we stay because they are worried about what the Sunnis or Shia will do to them if we leave (and they aren't quite ready to declare Kurdistan yet). Let's say the Sunni are worried about the Shia but vote 55% that we leave. The Shia vote 60% that we leave. The Total Iraqi vote is that we stay by, say, 60%. But the guys fighting each other (and us....) say leave by 58%. If we treat Iraq as one nation than we should take the cumulative vote and stay...carrying out the mission. If we look region by region, or sectarian group by group, we should leave.(or stay up North only). I mean, geez.....it ain't easy to do something like let em vote if we should stay or leave.

To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (754174)	11/12/2006 8:54:34 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

This will be interesting to watch...Hoyer has a large following and claimed last week he had the votes. But how strong is Pelosi's endorsement? __________________________ Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), in line to become Speaker in January, is throwing her support to Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) in the race for Majority Leader, a move that will be an early test of her influence and will weigh heavily on Murtha's contest with Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) for the post. Pelosi, in a letter distributed Sunday to newly elected House Democrats, wrote that Murtha's outspoken opposition to the war in Iraq helped change the electoral campaign for the House this fall. Murtha began calling for a U.S. pullout from Iraq a year ago, and his open opposition to the war made him a focus of intense criticism from Republicans and the White House. Pelosi, though, credited Murtha, one of her closest allies in the House, with changing the national debate on the issue and helping provide Democratic challengers and incumbents with a winning argument for the mid-term elections. "With respect to Iraq in particular, I salute your courageous leadership that changed the national debate and helped make Iraq the central issue of this historic election," Pelosi wrote in a personal letter to Murtha. "Your leadership gave so many Americans, including respected military leaders, the encouragement to voice their own disapproval at a failed policy that weakens our military and makes stability in that region even more difficult to achieve. The enthusiastic response of Americans all across this nation gave an enormous lift to our Democratic efforts, and your unsurpassed personal solicitations produced millions of dollars which were new to the effort. Those resources made a huge difference and particularly for the candidates on whose behalf you campaigned." Pelosi added: "Your strong voice for national security, the war on terror and Iraq provides genuine leadership for our party, and I count on you to continue to lead on these vital issues. For this and for all you have done for Democrats in the past and especially this last year, I am pleased to support your candidacy for Majority Leader for the 110th Congress." dailykos.com