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To: Elroy who wrote (208480)	11/15/2006 10:23:13 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 281500

Funny thing is that republicans spent a LONG time on SI running around telling liberals here that they didn't believe Iraqis were "good enough", or "deserving" of democracy, and freedom, yada yada yada, just because liberals thought the war wouldn't turn out well. Too bad republicans didn't agree with you from the git go. We could have left Iraq the way it was and saved a lot of money and lives.

To: Elroy who wrote (208480)	11/15/2006 10:49:16 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Democracy was NEVER an Iraqi idea - it was always OUR idea. Why should they want it? They don't even know what it is. Would you trust some foreign notion being forced on you at the barrel of a gun?

To: Elroy who wrote (208480)	11/15/2006 1:17:31 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

Elroy, Iraqis are policing themselves. They've decided that they want revenge, power and oil revenues for themselves. Pretty common human behavior. They've looked at the various options under American Vaccuum rule (i.e. no governance whatsoever) and decided to: 1. flee the country 2. take sides with their religion/ethnicity 3. duck It was the OBLIGATION of the Bush administration to provide the better alternative: political choice as a single country. The Bush administration failed miserably at that, choosing to hide in the Green Zone and leaving the country to violence. The CPA did not provide that political choice to Iraqis when they disbanded the army and the government and told the Sunnis that the tables had been turned and they were out....permanently. Bremmer told the Sunnis that they had no jobs, no pensions, no future in their own country. The Sunnis, Baathists by choice or not, decided that this was a lousy situation and they took up arms. What the hell would you do? Iraq had a final political opportunity to make good IMO when the Constitution was voted on. Had the Constitution failed in Iraq then Sunnis would have understood what minority power was and that it would be protected in their country. THAT would have been an opening. IMO, if Republicans were going to cheat, steal and lie about voting this was the time they should have done it...for the good of Iraq and of the US. So the choice has been made by people with guns and too much testosterone and no choices remain for everyone else in Iraq. They can't go to the police, they can't go to the government, they can't go anywhere. They're STUCK because of the Bush administration. So to blame the Iraqis is despicable. The blame goes 100% on the Republican administration, the Neocons, the war profiteers and the various incompetents who have shoved the country into this chaotic hell-on-earth.