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To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (4818)	11/15/2006 11:28:03 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

There are any number of Muslim individuals, or groups (like Al Qaeda) that are conspiring against the west and/or against the US. But "All Muslims play a part and have a role in this conspiracy" is silly, both because there isn't one huge conspiracy but a lot of small to moderate sized ones, and because many Muslims don't support the effort. You mentioned staying silent, well not all Muslims do, a number of them openly condemn terrorism and violent extreme fundamentalism, but even for those who do stay silent, doing nothing is not taking part in a conspiracy. You mention that Muslims have a higher fertility rate then most others. True but that's hardly a conspiracy. I doubt many followers of Islam are saying to themselves, "you know we should have a dozen kids so that Islam can take over the world". You say that "Muslims do not and have never lived in peace with non Muslims", that's not true. They have had a lot of conflict with others, and have a fair amount of conflict today, but its not like there history has been non stop unending war. Its also not like non-Muslims have been continually at peace.

To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (4818)	11/15/2006 12:23:54 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 10087

Interesting. Much of that, with a more or less extreme spin, could be said of any group that has social or political goals. The opinions you present are way over the edge but I understand this is coming from your participation in the Death Cult thread, so in that context I get it. I understand that your members may be suggesting this type of challenge be addressed to me on this thread, as I have already seen that type of suggestion being posted on another public thread. I'm not too interested but others here may be. The obvious underlying theme in the list is that you have a particular issue with Islam and Muslims. Islam is a religion, you can chose not to believe in it and you can believe people who do believe in it are wrong to believe in it. Here in America we have freedom of religion, which deals with that issue very nicely. My personal attitude about religions is that religions don't hurt people, however, people may hurt people with religions. That includes anti-religious people. Muslims are human beings. Since there are well over a billion Muslims, we could definitely validate the negatives you report within one subgroup or another and with reference to individuals. My observation on this is that if it wasn't the religion it would be some other silly thing that you all hate each other over. Wearing the color blue rather than brown or something just as silly. There is a definite geopolitical war going on right now where certain groups can be identified by their extremism, terrorism, or fascist agendas but your target just seems based on your fears or the 'Death Cult' you belong to and quite out of kilter, more what I would expect to read from an extremist or fascist than someone claiming to be an anti-fascism author.