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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13232)	11/19/2006 3:32:46 PM
From: philv	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

The scraping and bowing and overt ass kissing that goes on in Washington whenever one of these Oil Sheiks come to town is disgusting, and should abuse anyone of the thought that democracy is on the US administration's mind. Quite the opposite now, of course. These guys are on the take and on the US payroll, and do what they are told. The last experiment in democracy in Palestine has resulted in little Israel bombing and starving the citizens in the hope that they will throw out the elected Hamas government in favour of a government that is more "acceptable". I'm sure, even a good dictator would do. They tried that in Lebanon too, but so far, all it has done was to strenghten Hezbollah. The single biggest blunder in "democracy" is Iraq. The US thought they could install a puppet government and control political events in Iraq. The result is a civil war, with Iran holding the trump cards. Iran, the arch enemy, the country which overthrew their American backed Shaw. I wonder how many Americans wish Saddam was back in power? Things were so much simpler then! It isn't democracy or the will of the people that is important. It is a government or dictatorship which the West can control and do business with. That no doubt is a lesson well learned by Palestine, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. etc. etc. I'm sure this hasn't escaped the attention of China or Russia either.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (13232)	11/21/2006 5:14:53 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 22250

The latest on the love-hate relationship between Europe's Judeofascists and Israel: Le Pen calls Israel’s decision to snub his daughter “inappropriate” By Shirli Sitbon and Yossi Lempkowicz 29/Oct/2006 PARIS/BRUSSELS (EJP)--- Jean-Marie Le Pen, leader of the French extreme-right Front National party has criticised Israel’s refusal to have any contact with his daughter Marine Le Pen during a planned visit of European parliamentarians in the country. “This decision is inappropriate,” Le Pen declared on Friday. Israel’s decision to object to the inclusion of Marine Le Pen in the MEPs delegation[] prompted the European Parliament in Brussels to postpone the visit officially “for technical reasons that could affect the success of the mission". A parliamentary source however confirmed it was due to Israel's refusal to accept Le Pen. The 16-member European Parliament delegation was scheduled to visit Israel and the Palestinian territories between October 28 and November 4. It was expected to meet Israeli officials, including Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, foreign minister Tzipi Livni and defence minister Amir Peretz. Racist and Holocaust denier party* In a letter to the European Parliament, Israel’s foreign ministry stressed the “sensitivities” regarding contacts with representatives of the extreme-right parties in Europe. "The delegation contained a senior member (Marine Le Pen) of a political party which, unfortunately, is both racist and a Holocaust denier," Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Mark Regev said. "For that reason, and although we wanted to receive delegations from the European Parliament, we said that if such a delegation with such a composition would come to Israel they would not receive official meetings," Regev added. Israeli sources said they could hardly imagine Marine Le Pen at the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem while her father, to whom she is close, has made anti-Semitic statements. Reacting to Israel’s decision, Jean-Marie Le Pen said: «Rejecting the delegation is contrary to our heritage of diplomacy and the most elementary democracy. Furthermore, they (the Israeli government)] didn’t even justify their decision.” He accused Patrick Gaubert, a [Jewish] MEP from the French governing UMP party, who heads the anti-racist organisation Licra, of “orchestrating the move”. “I have the impression this is a shady scheme probably initiated by members of the European Parliament, maybe by Mr Patrick Gaubert, president of the Licra, who probably has some relations within the Israeli government,” Le Pen said. “But the decision will probably be debated in Israel. Can a political movement representing millions of voters be banished?” he asked. EU parliament decision welcomed Le Pen welcomed the European Parliament’s decision to postpone the delegation trip. “The European Parliament reacted with dignity when it told the country (Israel) it wasn’t up to it to designate the members of the delegation. That is the Parliament’s role.” The 78-year-old Jean-Marie Le Pen, who caused an upset in France's 2002 presidential election when he finished second, was convicted and fined in 1990 for inciting racial hatred and for saying in 1996 that the gas chambers used by the Nazis were "merely a detail in the history of World War II". Marine Le Pen, who is seen as the most likely successor of her father, was quoted last week as saying that her planned trip to Israel would be an opportunity to "clear up a certain number of misunderstandings". Jean-Marie Le Pen, who is the Front National candidate for next year presidential election, believes that he will meet Socialist favourite Ségolène Royal in the second round. ejpress.org [] Delegation for relations with Israel HYBÁŠKOVÁ Jana Chairwoman * BELDER Bastiaan Vice-Chairman * BENOVÁ Monika Vice-Chairwoman * CERCAS Alejandro Member * CZARNECKI Marek Aleksander Member * FERBER Markus Member * GAUBERT Patrick Member * GUTIÉRREZ-CORTINES Cristina Member * HAMMERSTEIN MINTZ David Member * LE PEN Marine Member * MASTENBROEK Edith Member * PANNELLA Marco Member * RIES-GOLDSTEIN Frédérique Member * SCHAPIRA Pierre Member * ŠTASTNÝ Peter Member * STOCKMANN Ulrich Member * SVENSSON Eva-Britt Member * TAJANI Antonio Member * VOGGENHUBER Johannes Member * ZALESKI Zbigniew Member * AUKEN Margrete Substitute * BACHELOT-NARQUIN Roselyne Substitute * BEGLITIS Panagiotis Substitute * BRIE André Substitute * DE VEYRAC Christine Substitute * EURLINGS Camiel Substitute * HAMON Benoît Substitute * HÖKMARK Gunnar Substitute * LÉVAI Katalin Substitute * LUCAS Caroline Substitute * MIKOLÁŠIK Miroslav Substitute * REUL Herbert Substitute * SBARBATI Luciana Substitute * SIWIEC Marek Substitute * TAKKULA Hannu Substitute * TANNOCK Charles Substitute * ŽELEZNÝ Vladimír Substitute * ZINGARETTI Nicola Substitute europa.eu