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To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (74600)	11/29/2006 2:41:28 PM
From: bart13	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

you, on the other hand, just throw out ad hominem flames which are not even arguments. either make a valid argument and back it up with facts or go home. Oh waaaahhh... poor baby can't stand criticism and doesn't bother to read fully and understand that every single time I have made specific points and/or arguments, but feels compelled to slam when any of his points or language is challenged. The Christian Science related iatrogenic comment was returned with a huge flame from you, without even bothering to consider or ask about any points which I was making, but rather went off on a rant based on some quality fantasies and assumptions. I hardly call that kind of response a "real argument", but rather the mark of someone who has some issues with understanding or a desire to understand - at the very very least. You don't have a clue what I was driving at, as proven by the lack of a response . And that dear boy, was my point to your silly and high emotion filled comment of "hardly the undiscovered truth Heinz makes it out to be" with my comment of "wanton sniping criticism and pontifications with little point". Additionally, another comment in that same post - "but it is oversimplifying to say that fundamentals are irrelevant or unimportant or "second fiddle" or however you want to put it. that is like saying gravity is unimportant to the motion of a feather tossed in the air from a high place" - shows more of the same, a grand and probably intentional disregard of his points about fundamentals as well as a tacky at best comparison of his views to gravity being unimportant. I suspect you're the only one who interpreted it that way - and yet more evidence of "wanton sniping criticism and pontifications with little point". Really now - do you seriously expect anyone to believe that Heinz thinks fundamentals are irrelevant - and that's another example of some trollish aspects on that post. Logical fallacies such as the following apply to posts & comments like that too: Ad Hominem: This is the best logical fallacy, and if you disagree with me, well, you suck. Appeal To False Authority: Your logical fallacies aren't logical fallacies at all because Einstein said so. Einstein also said that this one is better. Appeal To Majority: Most people think that this fallacy is the best, so clearly it is. Appeal To Numbers: Millions think that this fallacy is the best, so clearly it is. Begging The Question: Circular reasoning is the best fallacy and is capable of proving anything. Since it can prove anything, it can obviously prove the above statement. Since it can prove the first statement, it must be true. Therefore, circular reasoning is the best fallacy and is capable of proving anything. And the closest: Straw Man Argument: Apparently you think the Straw Man Argument is bad because you have something against the Wizard of Oz. Well, you know what? It doesn't have anything to do with the Wizard of Oz! Therefore, the Straw Man Argument must be the best fallacy. Looks like you have to go home now. nowandfutures.com

To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (74600)	11/30/2006 5:56:59 AM
From: shades	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 110194

everybody knows that Heinz is extremely smart. I don't get it, if we start trading shiny lumps of metal back and forth across lines on a map this will stop the evil in men's hearts? Isn't that the core of his "austrian" von mises philosophy? Trotsky is a conundrum, he claims "blade runner" was his favorite movie and our society can move towards many of the themes presented in that art, yet I don't remember shiny lumps of gold being so important in Los Angeles in 2019 as depicted. Things like genetic technology and police laws and enforcement were the main themes eh? I did a lot of work in my life, good work helping people, and I didn't have to be paid in shiny metal coins to do so. I wonder how many times mish or ILD or whoever else worships hienz got paid at thier job in shiny metal coins - how did they ever work and not get a lump of shiny metal in their hand - the absurdity - the hypocrisy. Heinz is a loon if he truly believes that for 20-30 billion people to conduct trade in 2019 - shiny lumps of metal have to go back and forth over the fedex trucks and planes. I don't think hienz really believes that, I think he has found an easy way to survive and "sensationlism" may be part of his act. I wonder when heinz gets his paycheck, does he receive shiny metal coins and when he travels does he only pay in shiny metal coins - how silly - what a hypocrite. When I see heinz practice what he preaches - living in a shiny metal coin society or cult or commune or whatever - then I will give credit where it is due - pun intended. Right now it seems to me he is thriving in the very system he mocks - pathetic.