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Non-Tech : SLJB - Sulja Brothers Building Supply, Inc. (Bulls Board) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: rrufff who wrote (1297)	12/5/2006 9:07:45 AM
From: Buckey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1521

RRUFF this is a false assumption. is only logical that when someone posts on a stock message board, that person has a position in a stock On the contrary, those with no position are often the most objective and many do not have a position.

To: rrufff who wrote (1297)	12/5/2006 2:32:23 PM
From: creede	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1521

Rrufff, thanks for your post, it has helped me grasp the problem. Seems to me that we are way off track here. All we need to do, is focus on what you have been saying for years now. You have taught me that what's most important out of any company, on any level is being transparent, and shareholder friendly. That's all we can assess because we can in no way ever really know intent. We can't see into the hearts of the CEO's and every really know if they are already a "scam", or just about to become a "scam" because of their own personal demons. We also can't tell if they are about to have a "come to Jesus" moment, and reform. Therefore, all that is important to me in any given stock is the current transparency, and the way they are treating their shareholders. First of all, transparency is something that definitely can be assessed in any stock....not just the ones on the OTC or higher. Here are the things I consider to be transparent in the pinks. Most, as you know, have some of these things, but not all. Pinksheets Quotes (L2 optional) Transparent TA Timely Pinksheets Filings Audited Financials SEC Filings 15c2-11 to make a real market ( if it's a new shell, and not from the former ) The second thing, like you have stressed, is how "shareholder friendly" is the company? Imvho, this starts with the level of transparency. And it ends with honest communication from management to the shareholders. So, here's the problem with the "bulls thread" system. It tries to force us to be touts. I'm not a tout or a basher. I just want to talk about whatever either goes towards or away from my perception of the company being transparent and shareholder friendly. Thing is, posters like "I'm a" will come and label me a "basher" if I voice my complaints about what the company is doing to it's shareholders. I know that perhaps I went all little to far with some of party's stuff, but at the end of the day, that's not where this discussion has gone. It has focused on me being a "basher" in order to look away from the fact that the company does not have even one component of the transparency list. Not one. Nothing can be ascertained away from management itself. They score a zero in transparency. But we know this. So, we move on to shareholder friendly. In the shareholder friendly department, they put out PR after PR basically promising of all things....transparency through the AF's. They set their own deadlines, and we put stock in their word ( a little bit of stock...that is. lol ). At this point, I would have to say that in my book their "shareholder friendly" scorecard says zero.....just like their transparency. I have looked to figure out how they could say all that pump, and I discovered that the wording in the disclaimer, imvho, is extremely slippery, and unique. I'm not a lawyer, but to me it reads that the word "will" actually means "may". This is just another step in the wrong direction for me. So, I come to voice my disgust over the way management is treating us, and I get labeled a "basher" by "I'm a". Well, why did he not label me a "tout" when I was saying positive things about SLJB? A basher is one who goes from stock to stock with the intended purpose of attacking the stock. I see that he is confused by the bulls thread system, so I will not hold it against him, because basher am I none. At the end of the day none of us will ever be able to say a stock is a scam or legit beyond a shadow of a doubt. Neither will we be able to label any given poster a basher or tout. Eventually, they will all label themselves. So, as this drama called life continues, I'm focusing on two things.....and i'll call them as I see them. Have a good one, friend. GodBless-NoDoubt creede