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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (163)	12/6/2006 8:03:04 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

There are about nine Dem candidates for president. Only two, Kerry and Gore (who probably won't run), have been vetted. Both of them were cheated out of the White House. Both of them should have been president. Popularity polls aside, Kerry has as good a chance as any of them because no one knows. Also the botched joke thing is a huge non-issue, a joke in itself really, played on us by the Bush White House. Democrats don't know what they want yet. Sure they'd like someone new. Or some kind of dashing maverick. Don't they always? But everyone has different tastes. Obama is new and is the flavor of the month for many. Before him it was Gore Revisited. Clark, Dean and Edwards were once the New Thing. Next it could be someone else. And a year from now who knows, Kerry could be the new thing again. He has a book tour in about six months. So why not? Even Nixon came back and won, and very few people ever liked Tricky Dick. Remember, there is a reason the rightwing keeps on attacking and smearing Kerry. It's not because they don't fear him, it's because they DO fear him. They also attack Hillary and others, but they would definitely rather run against her than Kerry. Obama, who knows? Could he be defeated with racist ads like Ford was? Maybe. But maybe not. Obama may not even run, but if he does he too will be vetted. Vilsack, Bayh, Richardson and the rest will have their days in court. Also, we know Obama and Gore can raise money, but currently there are only four who have millions in the bank already, in order of richness; Hillary and Kerry (both with over 10 million), Bayh slightly less, and Biden with about 3 million. Edwards and Clark are in debt. No one else has any money to speak of, and that's important. Kerry also has the Kennedy machine behind him, which as we saw in 2004, can deliver big in Iowa and New Hampshire. And finally, Kerry has been counted out before. And he became the Comeback Kerry. I wouldn't bet against him. In fact I wouldn't bet against anything right now. No one knows who's running or who can win yet. It's a wide open race full of new and old faces.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (163)	12/6/2006 8:13:23 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

His name is Barack Hussein Obama. There is a reason he makes a joke about his "funny" name. It's because it's an awful name the GOP can use as a smear attack. Ten times worse than Vilsack or Brownback or Gingrich or Guiliani, which are also lousy names for presidential candidates. 90% chance the next president will be a manly-looking white male over 5'10" with a strong English sounding name, good hair and a presidential look. That's why Mitt Romney may creep up on McCain who has lost his looks and hair as he's aged. If Gore runs he needs to lose weight. If he's hired a trainer now you know he might run. If not, no way. If Howard Dean were tall and handsome he might be president now. etc. etc. In other words, cliches count with the mass consciousness of Amreican voters. Obama is handsome too, but he's black with an Arab sounding name. He's also young, inexperienced and liberal. Though he has some very strong atttributes as well. There was also a reason the Bushies attacked Kerry's looks, because he's central casting for President of the USA. He looks the part more than anyone on the dem side. Edwards is a bit too pretty. Bayh is handsome but rarely shows any edge or passion.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (163)	1/5/2007 7:32:27 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

DEAN LEADS KERRY BY 30% IN N.H. 5 December 2003 * When the going gets tough, who gets tougher? And what type of candidate doesn't make it past first base in the end? A new poll by Zogby International shows Vermont Gov. Howard Dean now leads his nearest rival, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, by 30 points in New Hampshire. The poll showed Dean with 42% support among likely primary voters and Kerry at 12%, with a +/-4.5% margin of error. The New Hampshire primary will be held January 27th, and is thought to be the first big test in the competition for the Democratic nomination to challenge President Bush. The poll is especially significant, given the degree to which Dean had been treated as an underdog outsider by Washington party leaders, and indicates that the Democratic base is looking for something other than what Washington currently has to offer. Concurrent Zogby polling shows Dean also leading in Iowa and South Carolina, the other two early tests, but by narrower margins. In South Carolina, Zogby shows Lieberman and Clark 2 points behind at 9%, with Gephart, Sharpton and Edwards at 7%. In the Iowa Zogby poll, Gephart now trails Dean by a narrow 26-22 margin. The rise of Gephart's campaign in Iowa, and the flourishing of Dean's campaign nationwide appear to indicate that grassroots organization and the Democratic base will be major factors in this term's primary process.