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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Chas. who wrote (18315)	12/8/2006 8:25:27 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

Re: One very prominent fact that you omit or don't acknowledge is that Islamic truth, Muslim thinking... is based on the Holy Qur'an and Muhammad's writings and all that it states or implies. And what's the basis of born-again GW Bush's faith-based initiatives? Clue: The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party a public information project of the Center for Religion, Ethics, and Social Policy at Cornell University [...] Faith-Based Initiative "We want to fund programs that save Americans one soul at a time." President George W. Bush, January, 2004, in a speech in New Orleans In this section: [...] Transformation from Secular to Religious Government Under the Bush administration, our country is experiencing a major transformation from a secular to a religious government. The President's faith-based initiative is central to this transformation and raises serious questions about church-state separation. "Slouching toward theocracy. President Bush's faith-based initiative is doing better than you think," by Bill Berkowitz, 2/6/04 provides an overview of this transformation. In his State of the Union address, Bush renewed a call for Congress to make permanent his faith-based proposals that would allow religious organizations to compete for more government contracts and grants without a strict separation between their religious activities and social service programs. On February 4, 2004, the U.S. House of Representatives voted for provisions in a social services bill that allow religiously based job discrimination in publicly funded programs run by churches. theocracywatch.org

To: Chas. who wrote (18315)	12/8/2006 9:04:19 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 32591

Re: Once a group of people become driven by a spiritual message the equation changes dramatically. I would put it differently: "Once a group of people become boxed/imprisoned in a religious identity the equation changes dramatically." Indeed, many Muslim leaders are only too aware of the danger for Europe's Muslims to be framed as one-dimensional automata of Islam who are unable to voice their grievances, opinions, emotions through a political, non-religious discourse....() Again, Judeofascists would love to entrap Europe's Muslims into the Islamic box. Hence their attempt to promote imams and religious agitators as the legitimate spokespersons of Muslim minorities instead of (Muslim) women or politicians. Of course, what motivates Judeofascists in their demonization of Muslim minorities is not Europe's fate or interests but Israel's. Judeofascists don't want the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to remind Europeans of their colonial throes of yore. They don't want Zionism/Israel demoted to a mere colonial aberration.... Therefore, Arab/Palestinian hostility to Israel must be spun as some irrational hatred, as stemming from Islamic fanaticism --not as a legitimate, anti-colonial war of liberation. Now, most European countries didn't wait for a massive influx of Muslim immigrants to empathize with the Palestinian cause, anyway.... Back in the 1960s, French head of state General De Gaulle reversed his policy of military cooperation with Israel after the 1967 war --he wasn't pressed by France's immigrants. If anything, France at the time was much more hostile to Arabs as she was still smarting from the loss of Algeria. Yet, today, the presence of millions of Muslim immigrants across Europe doesn't help the Zionist cause as it naturally shift public opinion farther away from Israel --hence the Judeofascist ploy to Israelize Europe by branding her Muslim immigrants "terrorists", "sleeper cells", "al-qaeda sympathizers", you name it..... Gus () Sarkozy, who incidentally has vehemently called into question the traditional separation of church and state in France, also proposes that these students be characterized "as Muslims", whereas Begag says that the young people should be acknowledged as "competent school and university graduates". Excerpted from: Message 23078967

To: Chas. who wrote (18315)	12/8/2006 9:23:27 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

Re: I don't believe we will ever see a Eurabia but I firmly believe the Muslims will change the face of Europe in the next 100 years and not for the better... ...nor for the worse. Let's say they'll change Europe. I guess Roman patricians living in the 3rd and 4th centuries AD were equally despondent witnessing hordes of barbarians settling across the Roman Empire... eventually, those Barbarians fancied themselves "Europeans".... As I wrote on other threads, Europe is destined to meet the same fate as Byzantium, that is, a gradual morphing into some "post-Greek civilization"... a blend of European secularism and Middle Eastern trappings.... Clue: Message 22287055 Gus