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Politics : Foreign Policy Discussion Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: DayTraderKidd who wrote (7785)12/19/2006 11:11:29 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 15987
 
I'm not dancing around anything. I answered your questions directly and accurately. My applications of the term insurgent doesn't amount to an argument for our involvement in Iraq. Changing the definition of insurgent wouldn't amount to an argument against the invasion of Iraq, or our current assistance to the Iraqi government.

Insurgent is a morally neutral term, it just means someone fighting against his government in a way that is short of active open full revolution.

I don't buy your answer that I would be an insurgent if our country were attacked and I defended it.

I said you would be an insurgent if you opposed the government of your country.

Weather it be citizens in France and Poland during WWII who formed groups of resistance to the germans

Technically any French resistance fighters who fought against the Vichy government were insurgents. That's not a moral judgement, its just applying the definition of the word insurgent. "Insurgent" is not the same as "evil", or "deranged", or "pointless violent", or "someone we must oppose".

and that somehow those citizens in Iraq who choose to defend there country are wrong.

Saying that the people we are fighting in Iraq are defending their country is a distortion of reality. Some of the people aren't even Iraqis. Others are fighting to reestablish a dictatorship, or to kill people in other ethnic/religious groups. The Iraqi force doing the most to protect their country is the Iraqi army.



To: DayTraderKidd who wrote (7785)12/19/2006 12:12:57 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15987
 
I think you are dancing around the main issue. That issue is we invaded Iraq and were not invited in.

Speaking of dancing, do you believe that the UNSC had the right to issue binding (enforceable) resolutions against Iraq?

If so, do you believe that, one issued, it's important for maintaining the credibility of the UN as the prime international organization tasked with conflict resolution?

Hawk