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To: epicure who wrote (212266)1/9/2007 6:33:35 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
" ... the means of the execution, and while it certainly subtracts from the dignity, it isn't the same as having humans mocking the dying.

I don't blame Bush for this, but what happened during Saddam's execution is inexcusable. It was unavoidable that some people would garner a sense of vengeance by the outcome. However, that should have been left for people as a personal and private circumstance. It should not been portrayed on the world stage.

There are well known and commonly referred to Hadith (Sayings of Mohammed) in Islam that forbid Muslims from humiliating others even in the act of putting an enemy to death. In addition there is a Hadith in which Mohammad said you should stand when the coffin of any dead person (Even an enemy) passes as a show of respect, as that person would now be in the presence of higher judgement and whatever Earthly wrongs the dead person committed were no longer an issue. In otherwords it is our opportunity to let the thing go and be forgotten, so that we can all just move on. The lynch mob blew it.



To: epicure who wrote (212266)1/9/2007 7:21:24 PM
From: E  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
I remember the incident well. Her name was Karla Faye Tucker. The reporter to whom Bush mocked her was Tucker Carlson. (For anyone who wants to google the incident.)

Bush's affect where killing people is concerned is kind of creepy. Remember this?:

"The three men who murdered James Byrd, guess what's going to happen to them?" Bush said, smiling. "They'll be put to death. A jury found them guilty. It will be hard to punish them any worse after they get put to death."

archive.salon.com

This reminds me...There was a Bush puff piece in the New York Times a few years ago in which a friend of Bush's fondly recalls their boyhood sport of shooting frogs with bb's or sticking firecrackers into them and lighting them.

Bush is a quite primitive individual, is my impression.