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To: GST who wrote (212353)1/10/2007 9:38:25 AM
From: Sam  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Israel is the only country, and Jewish people are the only people, who commit no atrocities -- and even if they did you could never say it because any criticism of Israeli atrocities makes you an anti Semite.

First, to say that criticism of those who criticize Israel as anti-semites is overused is not to say that that criticism is always wrong. And second, plenty of people who see some criticisms of Israel as valid also see antisemitism and see that that criticism is itself not infrequently overstated. To blur all of these things by making blanket statements as you (and others) often do is falsify both situtations (criticisms of Israel and anti-semitism)

It is little wonder that no progress has been made in the middle east. It is little wonder that the destiny of Israel is to be vaporized in a horrible atomic flash. when that happens it will not be those who criticized Israel who are responsible. No, it will be the responsibility of those who refused to allow those who speak the truth to be heard and heeded -- and the truth is that Israeli atrocities must stop if there is ever to be peace and security for Israel.

To put these sentences together is a remarkable non-sequitar. You appear to conflate "no progress" in the middle east with the existence of Israel. This is nuts. And you also appear to suggest that Israeli actions toward Arabs will be responsible for Arabs "vaporizing" Israel and that this will be justifiable. This is lunacy. There are a multitude of possible actions that Arabs could have taken in the past that would have lessened the tensions between Jews and Arabs and would have resulted by now in a Palestinean state that would coexist peacefully with Israel. More Arabs and fellow Muslims were repressed, denied political rights and outright killed by Syria's Assad (the father, not the son) than by Israel since 1980--but I don't hear you screaming about him. More Palestineans were killed by Jordan's King Hussein back in the early 70s (soemthing like 5000 or so, I think it was) than have been killed by Israel in both Intifadas, but no one says anything about that. As many Jews were "transferred" from Arab countries in the late 40s and 50s as Arabs left Israel, but I don't hear calls for repatriation. As we speak, Sunnis and Shias are killing each at alarming rates in Iraq, and "transferring" populations from neighborhood to neighborhood--a situation far worse than ever was in Israel since the original war in '48--but--where is the focus? If only the Palestinean problem were solved, then all would be well in the Arab world.

Get some perspective, man.