To: combjelly who wrote (320668 ) 1/14/2007 11:37:31 AM From: Alighieri Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573697 That is going to be tough to make it stick. Accepting responsibility isn't their strong suite, it is always easier to blame someone or something else. Like this, we would have won in Iraq if it wasn't for the press, the protesters, the Democrats or if the Iraqis had more sense. Now the last point has a lot off truth to it, but it was something that should have been factored in from the beginning. It isn't like no one had a clue that this might have happened. The idea they have floated that no one had a clue that this was possible should be laid to rest by the reason that Bush41 didn't take out Saddam in Desert Storm Part 1. Which was the fear that what is happening, would happen. And they didn't fear it because of the press, the protesters or the Democrats. It was feared because even a casual analysis of the situation tells you that Iraq shared a lot with the old Yugoslavia. All that held it together as a more or less peaceful country was a strong man dictator. Take away the strong man, and things fall apart. Violently. This isn't a hindsight is 20/20 thing either. There were a lot of people who knew this before. But they weren't telling Bushco what they wanted to hear, so they didn't get heard. And that wasn't the fault of the press, the protesters, the Democrats or for that matter, the Iraqi people. It is solely the fault of Bushco and the people who elected them. My point exactly. The dems can actually give him his way out and STILL allow him to conduct the surge he's proposed, only it'll look to distracted americans like he tried his best, and those damned democrats screwed him and the country. Al