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To: Think4Yourself who wrote (78177)1/17/2007 1:43:59 PM
From: CommanderCricket  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 206146
 
JQP,

Most people don't care or know what their "carbon foot print is". As we know on this thread, there are many ways to save 5% here, 10% there with no change in lifestyles. Where's the motivation to make the changes?

None that I see

When is someone going to mention ungulates (cows) are responsible for 1/4 of the new green house gases? Anyone mentioning perhaps we shouldn't be eating as much beef? The way things are going many can't afford it anyway so perhaps we'll get a few emission cuts regardless.

Next door neighbor has a screamer of a kid. Drives the kid up and down the block for a 1/2 - hour every afternoon - Ford Explorer. Stroller? no way baby.....

When working from home, you get to see a lot of interesting stuff.

CC



To: Think4Yourself who wrote (78177)1/17/2007 2:12:09 PM
From: LoneClone  Respond to of 206146
 
Although I agree with most of your post, and do everything I can to reduce my personal energy usage, until the average person has access to full "cradle to grave", i.e. production to disposal, statistics for the energy costs of everything we consume, changes in personal usage practise will have a limited effect.

Do you know the full energy costs of ANY product you buy, covering everything from the initial resource extraction through transportation, manufacture, usage, and disposal? That's what it takes to make a properly informed decision.

LC



To: Think4Yourself who wrote (78177)1/17/2007 2:13:25 PM
From: miraje  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206146
 
"Is it occurring?" to
"it's occurring but is it due to man" to
"it's occurring but how much is due to man?"


How 'bout the next step being "it's occurring and just maybe it's positives outweigh the negatives". Milder winters, lengthened growing seasons (larger crop yields), more rain to alleviate water shortages, etc...

In any event, short of shutting down the global economy, CO2 emissions will increase in the coming decades, no matter how much wailing and caterwauling takes place. There are simply no magic energy bullets that will offer realistic alternatives to replace carbon based fuel sources any time in the near or intermediate future.

If one believes that global warming is both "bad" and "solely human caused" (which I certainly don't) then the only practical way to deal with rising CO2 emissions is something along the lines of this (which is eminently practical and reasonable and yet gets zero press)..

sciencedaily.com

Of course global warming is political (and getting to be hysterically so). And it's no wonder that the topic has become divorced from objective science, because the louder that all the "experts" squawk about the impending end of the world (Al Gore style), the more grant money they get thrown at them.

And then there's the matter of cows...

abcnews.go.com

cgfi.org