To: epicure who wrote (213855 ) 1/21/2007 11:58:37 AM From: Brumar89 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 I see he was rejected by the French school he applied to. Nevertheless he seems to have educated himself while living in France and England. He did learn the communist idealogy while living in Europe. H? Chí Minh applied for a course at the French "Colonial Administrative School" immediately after he arrived in Marseille, France. However, his application was rejected. In 1911, H? Chí Minh went to the South to Gia Dinh Ho Chi Minh City Saigon and joined a ship en route to Marseille as a cabin-boy. H? Chí Minh worked hard as a cleaner, waiter, cook's helper, and film developer. Regardless, he was very excited with what he learned from a totally different world each day. He often went to the public library, read newspapers and paid close attention to the current affairs and political issues. He also appreciated the French everyday life, and enjoyed Maurice Chevalier songs, which he knew by heart. [edit] In the USA It is believed that he even travelled to the United States, first arriving in New York in 1912 during a stop-over while working as an on-board cook on a ship. Ho claimed he later worked for a wealthy family in Brooklyn between 1917 and 1918, and during this time he may have heard Marcus Garvey speak in Harlem. It is believed that while in the United States Ho made contact with Korean nationalists, an experience that served to develop his political outlook.[2] [edit] In EnglandHo lived in Crouch End in Hornsey, north London, at various points between 1913 and 1919 where it is claimed he trained as a pastry chef under the legendary French master, Escoffier, at the Carlton Hotel in the Haymarket, Westminster, although there is no contemporary evidence to support this.[2] There is a commemorative Blue Plaque on the building, which is now New Zealand House. The city's fancy restaurants were beyond his means, but he indulged in one luxury — American cigarettes, preferably Camel or Lucky Strike brands. [edit] Political educationH? Chí Minh embraced communism while living in France from ca. 1919-1923. Ho claimed to have arrived in Paris in 1917; however, the French police documented his arrival in the French capital from London in June 1919.[2 From wikipedia