To: Peter Ecclesine who wrote (19107 ) 1/26/2007 3:14:06 AM From: axial Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 46821 Hi Peter - 1 - "What fact did I correct?" Response : Your statement "The people in London included Atheros CTO Bill McFarland, and Sheung Li, TGn Vice Chair, who are far more knowledgeable than whoever Brian talked to in the booth at CES." leads the reader to conclude that there's a disparity between the case as stated by Brian, and the case as it would be stated by those truly "in the know" (ie., those in London). That is, the facts from Brian and his CES source are wrong, and the facts from London (known to you) are correct. 2 - "Robert's Rules of Order are used to conduct meetings..." Response : Yes. A "packed" meeting can be conducted quite well using Robert's Rules of Order. "... and not all participants are equally skilled or knowledgeable." Or moneyed. Which makes them easy prey, instead of possible contributors to a better standard? 3 - "I think when the chair of 802.20 was elected, everyone in the room knew who was paying him, just like today in 802.22." Response : QED 4 - "What is your allegation about 802.11n, other than it is a five year journey that could have been better spent on other targets for new PHYs... What 'manipulation' are you referring to?" Response : "However, this is raising fears that the agenda for such standards is falling entirely into the hands of the suppliers and the vendor-driven Wi-Fi Alliance, which may be forcing the pace at the expense of the quality and independence of the IEEE process. "theregister.com In summary, I think I'll let the IEEE speak for itself:Standards Uproar Leads to Working Group Overhaul (Emphasis added)"The move this year to suspend the IEEE working group developing the latest version of high-speed broadband Internet access was rare, but not unprecedented . It forced the IEEE Standards Association’s Standards Board to take a hard look at who is on its working groups and to tighten procedures to ensure that IEEE standards are developed in a fair and open process ." tinyurl.com Regards, Jim