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To: axial who wrote (19128)	1/26/2007 8:19:55 AM
From: Peter Ecclesine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 46821

Hi Jim, Thanks for the reply. Brian felt the people at CES who said their products could be software upgraded to Draft 2.0 were lying to him, he did not see how that was possible. Brian should have gotten the promise in writing, in a contract, enforceable in court. Otherwise it is standard consumer electronics marketing, just like the "road hazard" guarantee on tires - your mileage may vary. >>4 - "What is your allegation about 802.11n, other than it is a five year journey that could have been better spent on other targets for new PHYs... What 'manipulation' are you referring to?" Response: "However, this is raising fears that the agenda for such standards is falling entirely into the hands of the suppliers and the vendor-driven Wi-Fi Alliance, which may be forcing the pace at the expense of the quality and independence of the IEEE process."<< Work goes to the workers. "Manipulation" is not the word I'd use for vendors and suppliers paying people to work on standards. You might use that word to describe the 802.20 situation, but 802.15.1 was the Bluetooth SIG coming to IEEE, a multi-vendor version of the same stacking of the room. 802.11 currently has 347 voters, and most big companies have fewer than 15 802.11 voters, making alliances necessary to achieve consensus. The agenda is set by the voters, and being an IEEE 802.x voter costs ~$5500 a week, up to six times a year, a minimum of three times in sixteen months. Not that many academics/end users want to spend the time and money to affect the agenda, and it has been than way for the sixteen years I've been going to IEEE 802. Same thing for 3GPP, for ETSI, for ARIB/MMAC, etc. EASY TO TALK ABOUT THE PACE and QUALITY OF THE PROCESS FROM THE OUTSIDE, much harder to describe a better way. There are plenty of examples of failure, e.g. UWB in 802.15.3, saying the fault is not in the process, it is in the voters. petere