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To: Road Walker who wrote (323431)1/28/2007 9:16:32 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576608
 
read a history book



To: Road Walker who wrote (323431)1/29/2007 1:35:12 AM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576608
 
"Now how can you win every battle and lose a war?"

Depends on your definition of a battle. Shorty is correct, with the WWII definition of "battle", we won every one. But, we couldn't control much beyond Saigon and our firebases. All of that is not relevant, though. We didn't lose in Vietnam, we just negotiated a cessation of hostilities. Only the dead enders see it as a loss. IF there were any strategic interests in South East Asia, that had ended long before. To stay would have served no interests and would have resulted in more casualties.

You know this. I know this, Shorty, arguably, doesn't actually "know" anything. Knowing implies comprehension. He shows little or no sign of this. This is a guy who believes a seatbelt extender is a deadly weapon...



To: Road Walker who wrote (323431)1/29/2007 8:42:00 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576608
 
Now how can you win every battle and lose a war?

You defeat the enemy in confrontations again and again, but the enemy cares more about the war than you do, and you give up an go home despite never being directly defeated in a tactical sense in any serious way).

In another sense (that doesn't apply to our efforts in Iraq) you can win a bunch of pyrrhic victories, where you take control of your objective, destroy far more of the enemy then you lose yourself, but have less resources to replaces losses then the enemy and your strength gets whittled away while there's does not. You can either then give up and go away like above, or perhaps you win every battle but one, the last one, where your resources are finally so low you get crushed.



To: Road Walker who wrote (323431)1/29/2007 11:47:18 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1576608
 
re: we won every battle in nam and the liberals lost the war, just like they are trying to do in Iraq

Now how can you win every battle and lose a war?


Its easy when you're shortie, the bedpost.