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To: geode00 who wrote (215911)	2/1/2007 11:07:10 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Getting sick is not the same as needing a new car or a new computer. Do you actually think that it is? Ah, as I noted before, you now seemed to have zeroed in on the issue of need vs desire in the economic equation. This remains me of Libertarians who think the government cannot create wealth, or engage in economic activities the way individuals do, since the government does things by force. I've never understood the economic difference if someone gets $1 from me with my smile or my frown. Indeed I feel different, but how they spend the money is not affected by how I feel. So here you are making the claim that need vs. desire is in your opinion, a critical deciding factor in whether to use non-profit, monopoly systems for the economic activity. Please expand on this thought. "I did not say that critical and immediate requires a non-profit monopoly. You did too." Where did I SAY THAT? In your own words: For the umpteenth time, I'm saying single-payer, non-profit because it IS critical, and it can be done TOMORROW from here: Message 23224283 You claim to have told me this umpteen times it would appear, yet now you claim never to have told me this. Go figure... I then pointed out that FEMA & Katrina were an excellent counter example. Certainly FEMA was tasked as the main governmental agency to deal with flood disasters, and floods have a way of needing action TOMORROW, or even sooner.

To: geode00 who wrote (215911)	2/1/2007 11:26:25 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Getting sick is not the same as needing a new car or a new computer. Do you actually think that it is? Please also recall you tried something like this already, the need vs. desire angle. I pointed out that food is far more of a need than medical care. Perhaps you think that since we biologically enjoy eating, that makes a difference. We generally don't enjoy getting health care, it often hurts. So is your economic theory that need + pain => non-profit + monopoly while desire + enjoyment => for-profit + competition? If so, please do flesh this theory out a bit. I can't understand any links.