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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (219172)2/18/2007 4:45:04 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Elroy, have you ever read a history of the actual creation of Israel?

The closest I've come was Exodus by Leon Uris :-) I thought it was a history book when I bought it, then found out it was a fictional novel around those times.

The Zionists tried very hard over a period of 75 years before 1948 to buy and build and country. They came with cash and labor, not an army.


Yup, that was in the novel, they worked harder than the locals and made something of themselves. Originally the locals welcomed them since they brought money to buy land, bought the worst plots of land, and generally raised the standard of living. Later on the locals got concerned that the reward for their acceptance of the new outsiders would be their own expulsion, which eventually proved correct.

It came to war when the Zionists ran into the Arab program of "NO". The Zionists declined to be wiped out or driven out, which is what would have happened if the Arabs had won in 1948.

This is news to me - I don't know what you mean by an Arab program of "NO". If the outsiders were trying to live as equals with the local population what the question that "NO" was an answer to?

Anyway, my point was not to blame either side for the situation that resulted in Israel-Pal today, I was just arguing with the claim that only the Muslims attack and kill others based on ethnicities. I don't know much about the history of the formation of Israel, but I imagine it involved plenty of attacking and displacing non-Jews from the land where Israel currently resides. That tends to happen in ethnic-religious-sectarian revolutions.