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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (219600)	2/19/2007 8:06:23 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Abdullah's essay is a joke. Perhaps our ersatz little Buddhist will tell you why Iranian antisemitism is such a good idea. As an Iranian, he knows, you see, but he's not telling. He said It is significant that the Philistines—not the Jews—gave their name to the country: "Palestine" is merely the Greek form of "Philistia." Since when has the name of a country meant diddly? We're named after an Italian mapmaker. Does this inextricably link us to Italy? And so on.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (219600)	2/19/2007 10:57:25 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Nadine, After I go through your posts, I'll get back to with more detailed answers. For now this is what I have to say: (1) You say, "The Arabs didn't show up in numbers until the 7th century, so 2000 is off by about 600 years." Are you sure? Who was living there before Islam? Was the land barren? Was it full of Greeks or Jews? Or was it mostly non-Muslim Arabs? (2) Compared to the treatment that Jews got in Europe, ME was paradise for them. There were no charges of Christ-killers on them and culturally and linguistically Jews were much closer to Arabs than to Western Europeans. So no, their situation was not at all like the Southern segregationalist example you provide. It was a lot more like the being black in the North. Blacks still had to put up with a lot of injustice in the North, but it was hell of a lot better than what they faced in the South...and that is exactly the point; judgement should be according to the context of the time. (3) So what is the significance supposed to be? The Philistines haven't given their name to anything since they vanished as a people around 800 BCE. The point is exactly what king Abdullah made. You guys haven't been around there for so long and look nothing like the natives who live there. That there is statute of limitation on such claims, is his main claim; you can't rearrange the world map according to ancient claims. That was exactly his point. ST