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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (221419)	2/27/2007 3:50:58 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"in a region where our national interests are not at stake." Yeah, I know. They don't have any oil. Only black people. You kidding? mbendi.co.za Crude oil production in Sudan averaged 343,000 barrels per day (bbl/d) in 2004, up from 270,000 bbl/d during 2003. In December 2004 the Sudanese government announced that oil production will likely increase to 500,000 bbl/d in 2005. International human rights organizations have accused the Sudanese government of financing human rights abuses with oil revenues, including the mass displacement of civilians near the oil fields. Factional fighting in the South and rebel attacks on oil infrastructure have kept oil production and exploration from reaching its full potential. Sudan's main oil fields are in the south, and disputes over oil fuelled a civil war there for more than two decades, claiming 2 million lives mostly from hunger and disease. afrol.com "New, secret oil installations in Darfur" afrol News, 14 September - As massive new deliveries to Chinese-operated oil fields in Western Sudan are being covered up in Norway, workers in the oil supply industry insist that the equipment's destination is the war-ravaged Darfur region, where "new discoveries" had been made. Neither the Sudanese nor the Chinese want to confirm new oil installations in Darfur.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (221419)	2/27/2007 4:25:25 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I see Elroy already pointed out your error about Sudan's oil. Now I'll point out your error about those poor black people you're pitying: you don't want to save them. You just want to look like you were saving them, but the second the going gets tough, you're outta there. You said it yourself: 6 months and out. And if it takes longer? Nope, got a short attention span. You (and Nancy Pelosi) are just advertising to all the world that all you need to do to win over America is wait them out. If we did go into Sudan, I bet it wouldn't be five minutes before you started yelling that it was all about ooooiiiilll.