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To: Ali Chen who wrote (227314)	3/3/2007 1:57:48 AM
From: fastpathguru	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

There is nothing up. I only can repeat my argument, which you continue to ignore and continue to substitute wrong metrics. When I want to compile a big project, be it software or firmware or FPGA, I need my [single] job done as fast as possible, to continue to debug it and move on adding more design features. Running four copies of the same compile does not help me nor anyone else. That's why people smarter than you have developed several benchmarks, for different kind of activities. You're really cracking me up, with this air of superiority combined with an apparent and utter lack of vision or experience. Compiling large projects is a non-parallel task? You can't see any way or reason to perform multithreaded builds? Compilation of projects is as "embarassingly parallel" as it gets. Hint: "make -jX"... fpg

To: Ali Chen who wrote (227314)	3/3/2007 2:25:46 AM
From: fastpathguru	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

"the 2.8GHz Opteron 2220 is FASTER, clock for clock, than the 3GHz Xeon 5160 in SPECint2006-rate, and just 10% slower, clock for clock, than the Xeon in SPECint2006-base" What the heck your "clock for clock" supposed to mean? Aha, now we are stretching the reality by prorating systems by clock speeds, to please yourself. Tell me please now that performance per watt is really important too, and companies cannot afford to pay for extra 10-20 Watts of electricity per workstation when a multi-million project depends on speed of compile turnarounds... Opteron F 2222 is 3GHz, like its Athlon64 FX-74 brother & otherwise identical to the 2220. If it's not out yet, it will be soon. transtec.de BTW, for the sake of accuracy, Dell 690 is a Workstation, not a server, as your cited tabloid refers to it. So, you better consider more appropriate metrics than spec_rate. Your insistence that workstations are single-threaded is, once again, ridiculous and unsubstantiated (but not for lack of trying.) fpg