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To: geode00 who wrote (222445)	3/5/2007 12:36:47 AM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

For Jesus to say to his followers, the world will never improve is quite a pessimistic prediction. I don't think that's the right attitude so I figure it's probably a misinterpretation. You are misinterpreting what is meant by the poor. The poor are a fluid group. A person may become sick and need charity only until he recovers. A woman may become widowed and return to her family for both subsistance and help with children until she remarries. A person may be financially oppressed by unjust laws which require overturning by a group of just power brokers. A person may become permanently disabled and require lifetime assistance. Some are born retarded, some lose all they own to fire or flood, some are victims of clever frauds or outright theft, and on and on. These are facts of life and will always be with us.

To: geode00 who wrote (222445)	3/5/2007 5:48:47 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"IMO you teach a man to fish and make him wealthy (sorry to the fish of course) you do not give him fish and keep him ignorant and poor. You do that often enough and pretty soon everyone's wealthy....now that sounds like a reasonable compromise." At some point you run out of fish and everyone is the poorer for it. Grand Banks Cod are gone and Baltic Sea cod are in decline. Other species are in decline too. The Christian concept of exploiting natural resources(the fish story is an example) is not to be praised on its own merits. It has to be seen in a wider perspective. 1) Population control 2) Biodiversity 3) Climate change 4) How do you know the difference between "wealthy" and "poor" when everyone is "wealthy"?