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Politics : The Truth About Islam -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ichy Smith who wrote (5985)	3/7/2007 1:26:41 PM
From: faqsnlojiks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20106

OT There's a difference between scaring off crooks with a 175 pound dog, and "slaughtering" people that are trying to take my possessions. Oh, and if "some fool" breaks into your house and is running off with your TV and you "sacrifice some fools life"...prepare for a long prison sentence...regardless of how poor you might have been at some time in the past. And if your 175lb dog kills a person in your backyard, you may be seeing prison time as well, if it's judged that the force applied was greater than what was required. This: But yes i could happily sacrifice some fools life to ensure the safety of my own possessions. leads me to believe that you should probably not be allowed to own any weapons, and mental health counseling might be something you should pursue. OT as nothing in this has to do with "The Truth About Islam".

To: Ichy Smith who wrote (5985)	3/7/2007 2:03:34 PM
From: Stan	Respond to of 20106

I am saying that my 175 pound dog has scared off more than one crook, and that since my neighbourhood has more big dogs, we have fewer peeping toms, prowlers, flashers and burglars. Before we had professional police departments do all of our crime prevention, deterrence and apprehension, communities all shared the load of protecting life and property. In those days, the incidence of such crimes as you mention were lower. Community crime watches deter a lot of crime. Christians also benefit from such factors and are responsible to support them as well. A true Christian is to be a community asset, not a leech or a troublemaker. He would fight to defend the defenseless or help the homeless. He is to love his neighbor with action. If he is not like this, then he probably is not a real Christian. But the thrust of my point is otherwise: Perhaps not so much in America, but Christians are often the target of the hatred from their own communities. If a Muslim converts or an orthodox Jew converts then these converts have little possessions or benefits left to them. I know a former Hindu who said the same treatment can occur among them. In such cases, the convert has no protection from the communities they were once a part of. Or, governments are often hostile and/or offer no protection either. The Christian's possessions are at risk as well as their lives. They may flee if they can, but failing that, they may lose all for their faith. If a Christian is living right, he will suffer some kind of persecution for it. Here, it is often from within churches. In my own case, I began to speak out against the celebrity predatory teachers and 'prophets' that many of our people in our church of 300 or so were foolishly following and supporting. As a teaching elder, I took a stand against them by naming names. My pastor came to me to silence me. I was stunned and hurt by this. I wasn't even asked what my evidence was. I was disturbing the peace that the pastor wanted maintained, for that is what he told me. Yet, I never told a lie about these people, but rather exposed them, quoting their distortions and self-serving heresies and providing documentation on how they were benefiting personally from the masses. I wanted it stopped in our own church. Our people would go to seminars, crusades; they would buy tapes and books. They were always glowing at how much God was doing as a result. But, no one asked how much money was leaving their lives. No one cared. So, I began to yell 'fire' because I was smelling smoke. But, they must have thought it was a barbeque I was yelling about. I was put between my pastor and God. I chose God. I had to leave, for in staying, I would have undermined the senior pastor's ministry. Long-term friends stopped contacting me. I lost clients from my small business. I am branded a Pharisee and a legalist and worse. My reaction? I hold no ill-will toward them. I pray for them and I have visited some of my most vigorous opponents recently when they were sick or even dying. I didn't come with an agenda or to gloat. I visited them because I felt bad for them suffering as they were. They had been friends of mine. I never hurt them. I told them an unpleasant, yet necessary truth. I just felt they were still deceived. Well, I have sympathy. I was once deceived by a lot of that stuff too. What they did to me is not mine to correct because I did it in the service of the Lord. I leave the disposition of all this in His hands. I have no thought to exact any vengeance on them whatsoever.