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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (223657)	3/12/2007 4:27:55 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

From Duelfer's Sept 2004 report on Salman Pak. Note that Iraqi Special Ops at the camp included a unit of suicide bombers. From Wikipedia: On September 30, 2004, Charles Duelfer released his findings of the Special Advisor to the Director of Central Intelligence on Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction. In a section of the report titled "Regime Strategic Intent Annex B", the report states the following: “ M14, Directorate of Special Operations: M14, directed by Muhammad Khudayr Sabah Al Dulaymi, was responsible for training and conducting special operations missions. It trained Iraqis, Palestinians, Syrians, Yemeni, Lebanese, Egyptian, and Sudanese operatives in counterterrorism, explosives, marksmanship, and foreign operations at its facilities at Salman Pak. Additionally, M14 oversaw the 'Challenge Project,' a highly secretive project regarding explosives. Sources to date have not been able to provide sufficient details regarding the 'Challenge Project.' Structure of M14: Special Operations Department, composed of a foreign and a domestic section, performed government-sanctioned assassinations inside or outside of Iraq. The 'Tiger Group' was similar to Special Operations, except that it was primarily comprised of suicide bombers. The Training Department provided training for all IIS officers going abroad. The Counterterrorism Department handled counterterrorism activities in Iraq and at embassies; reportedly, it disarmed terrorists hijacking a Sudanese airliner from Saddam International Airport. The Administrative Department provided support services such as administration, finances, communications, and logistics. The Anti-Iranian Department infiltrated operatives into Iran for intelligence collection and operated against Iranian groups attempting to enter Iraq.[21] ” Duelfer's report also suggests that Salman Pak may have been used by Saddam to train loyalists and foreign fighters for the planned Iraq insurgency. [22]

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (223657)	3/12/2007 12:59:29 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Entire Companies were overrun and wiped out in the jungles of Vietnam. LZs were overrun. Battalions lost battles and had to go back the next day and get their dead. Links? What? You think your word is good enough? Something you forget: Who held the ground at the end of Tet? And as for the rest of your post, don't cite me to long discredited, single source, right wing repeated, October 2001, "proofs" of the fictional Salman Pak alleged terrorist training site. Cite me to carefully critiqued, time tested and reality vetted "proofs." You DO realize PBS is YOUR boys, right? Or are you ignorant of that too? Associated Press: boston.com Is everyone wrong but you? news.netscape.com news.netscape.com globalsecurity.org "The Los Angeles Times reports soldiers from the 2nd Battalion, 23rd Regiment found what appears to be a large-scale terrorist training camp for the Palestinian Liberation Front, as well as documents indicating Iraq recently sold weapons to the terror group for its fight against Israel." worldnetdaily.com Then there's this: cbsnews.com This is BBC. Are they a right wing organ too? news.bbc.co.uk And as for the rest of your post, don't cite me to long discredited, single source, right wing repeated, October 2001, "proofs" of the fictional Salman Pak alleged terrorist training site. Cite me to carefully critiqued, time tested and reality vetted "proofs." So CBS, AP, PBS, and BBC are right wing? So I'll tell you what I told Nadine; we had that debate and you lost. Put it in the debunkered file. How about we put YOU in the debunkered file instead? I am a genius. You're a genius in your own mind. That's the one thing you and Nadine just can't get around, isn't it. I mean the undeniable fact that you've been proven so wrong, so often, not by words but by reality? I notice you call for sources but provide none yourself.