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To: dijaexyahoo who wrote (29213)	3/15/2007 6:38:02 PM
From: shres	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42834

Wow, what a surprise! Jack Bogle doesn't like market timing. And why would he want to lose that constant Vanguard management fee on billions and billions of dollars when timers were out of the market? Jack hates ETfs for the same reason. He says ETFs are like giving a match to an arsonist. And if Jack had his way, Vanguard wouldn't even offer ETFs but Jack's gone now and nobody listens to him anymore anyway. Whether market timing can be successful is still an open question regardless of what the money managers like Bogle say. Mark Hulbert, editor of the Hulbert Digest, has reviewed eleven years of real-market advisory data. In answer to the question, Is successful stock market timing possible? He concludes: "A not-insignificant number of advisors have added value to Buy-and-Hold with their stock market timing advice. To this extent at least, it is undeniable that it`s possible to successfully time the markets." I got a big laugh today in a post where Kirk again states that he doesn't believe in market timing and then he goes on to explain that he uses "market timing indicators" to determine buy and sell points. He says that's asset allocation...not market timing. I would suggest that y'all drop Mark Hulbert a note and ask him which newsletter writers have been able to successfully time the markets. Hulbert says "...it is undeniable that it`s possible to successfully time the markets... I know the Hon has recently corresponded with Hulbert and he was able to successfully resolve her questions and criticisms.

To: dijaexyahoo who wrote (29213)	3/16/2007 3:54:15 PM
From: sat2000	Respond to of 42834

dija, that was worth a rec. It has been awhile :) Keep up the good work! Steve Thompson

To: dijaexyahoo who wrote (29213)	3/22/2007 1:40:28 PM
From: Math Junkie	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 42834

Dija, did you see where Kirk accused Alan Coleman of being intellectually dishonest? Isn't it interesting how personal attacks against non-Bashers are OK over there? "I don't appreciate your questioning what we say is a fact when you don't have a stich [sic] of evidence to the contrary. It is counter productive and intellectually dishonest." So "questioning what we say is a fact" is intellectually dishonest unless you have evidence to the contrary. Unbelievable! Now personally, I agree with Kirk's opinion on the identity of Don Lane, and I have even written that I was 100% sure of it, but personally, I am not arrogant enough to believe that my being 100% sure about something constitutes proof.