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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224567)	3/18/2007 3:03:00 AM
From: kumar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

the roman empire wanted to expand its empire beyond rome. i do not believe that is the case with us in iraq. if u have evidence that cotradicts my contention, please present it.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224567)	3/18/2007 9:36:39 AM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

Are you advocating we use "Roman methods" in Iraq Nadine?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224567)	3/18/2007 4:37:00 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

Nadine, you wanted al Sadr to be crucified like Jesus? Geez Nadine, your insanity is cropping up everywhere now. You should take a vacation before it takes hold permanently.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224567)	3/18/2007 4:39:12 PM
From: Lou Weed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<However, the Americans forgot what the Romans never did, that they had to do whatever it took to establish control. Roman methods were brutal.>> Therein lies the rub Nadine. Brutal methods are what it took to keep that country together prior to our invasion. That's not what we're about.....trying to make a democracy stick there is going to be impossible IMO. The only way out that I see is splitting it into 3 separate states with a fair split of oil revenues.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224567)	3/18/2007 8:45:37 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

"the Americans forgot what the Romans never did, that they had to do whatever it took to establish control. Roman methods were brutal." Sometimes, people don't want or need to "become" Romans, Nadine. One hopes you aren't actually advocating that the US step up the brutality, and become the kind of country it spends time labeling as "evil". Sometimes you don't invade the places that require "brutality" to subdue them, especially when it isn't absolutely positively necessary- and this invasion certainly wasn't. The series Rome has cause a lot of people to worship the Romans, which strikes me as pretty funny, since a lot of those people are probably Christians, and let's all remember who crucified the putative son of God... I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the Greeks.