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To: golfbum who wrote (228681)	3/21/2007 3:28:59 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 275872

"i'm guessing that part of the "phone home" nature has a short list of permissible additions to prevent "leakage" of precious 5c protected content." From some of the things said, precisely. It also means no Linux.

To: golfbum who wrote (228681)	3/21/2007 4:13:57 PM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Dear Golfbum: Problem with that is that such a unit wouldn't be repairable. Without that, no company would sell such a thing given the bad P/R that would accrue. But, given repairability, content would leak. Simply swap HDs over time. Each extraction would leave usable content which is then copied and swapped back. Reason for this is that any seller who repairs has a set of good parts that effectively are a pool. With the swap until its fixed mentality of most such shops, a drive is swapped thinking it could be the problem, it gets back to the bench, it looks okay to them so its placed back in the good pool. Quite often it winds up being swapped right back into the old unit on a later "swap the drive to see, if thats the problem" troubleshoot. So the "leak" problem is just another red herring which marketing states, but that is not enforced by the actual software/firmware. If it is, there is a quick and dirty workaround known to the field techs which will find its way to public knowledge in short order. Frankly it isn't Cable Labs, AMD (ATI) or Microsoft which matters, but the cable company you are getting the content from. And as much as they publically toe the line as it were, another paying customer is more valuable. Time Warner gives you the software to attach to Roadrunner using Windows only, but if you want to attach using Linux, MacOS or some other OS, they don't care, just don't come to them with problems that are related top the OS. No HDTV digital channel 13 type problems and they will fix it no matter what OS or device you use to view it. Pete BTW, all cable and DSL systems have a back channel going upstream. For phone lines it is out of band and for most cable systems its the same way. The channel allows the devices to handshake to allow centrallized management. And its up, even if you aren't authorized for maintenance, testing and to get recognized.