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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (228848)	3/24/2007 10:38:01 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

I also think 45 nm will be impossible for AMD unless they increase their spending on research to the level of Intel. AMD's process partner IBM plans to be in production on 45nm by the end of this year. That is around the same time Intel is shooting for.

To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (228848)	3/24/2007 10:46:51 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

"My reading of Intel (who else!) papers is that there are not enough atoms in a 65 nm structure to be statistically modeled." By the time they do the ring oscillators and the SRAM test vehicles, they have pretty good models. "My feeling is AMD's automated process control tools do not and cannot work at that level," As I understand it, APM doesn't model the devices. It monitors the parameters that are used and the measured results on the test structures. It then keeps a database of tweaks and the results. So when the test structures start giving certain results, it sees what tweaks did what in the past and adjusts the parameters further down the production line to bring the devices on the wafer back to where they want them. "for the reason that whatever experience they have at 90 nm does not apply to 65 nm." It is my understanding that this is true anyway. Each new process has a new learning curve. "I also think 45 nm will be impossible for AMD unless they increase their spending on research to near the level of Intel." And you base this on what, exactly?