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To: lazarre who wrote (225265)3/27/2007 10:33:53 AM
From: neolib  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Not a very good analogy.

In the history you described, my sympathies lie with the blacks of Zimbavwe,


Could you be a bit more specific as to why it is not a very good analogy. As far as I can tell from your response, it is simply because of where your sympathies lie: In Zimbabwe they align with the blacks, but in Israel they don't align with the Arabs? Since you are on opposite sides of these two rather similar situations, the analogy must be bad??

There are of course significant differences like 1) Ancient historical ties in Israel, lacking in Rhodesia, 2) Demographics in Israel about one order of magnitude better (50% Jews vs 5% whites) and 3) the external issues motivating a Jewish state following WWII whereas the British didn't really need another country.

While true, the above do not alter the similarities I pointed out before, and unfortunately it is the similarities that are driving the problems in Israel. Namely one group of natives lost their homeland to some intruders who most definitely treat the natives as 2'nd class, and there is a developing demographic time bomb.

The real question is can one learn anything from Southern Africa that might make the outcome in the ME better for all involved? My best guess is that continuing with the status quo and resisting change, while trying to hold onto as much as possible for one side, does not work in the long run. I suspect that whites would have been much better off today in Zimbabwe, if Ian Smith had allowed majority rule back in 1965, rather than going through UDI. Unfortunately, we can't rerun history.

His description of Zimbavwe is heart breaking.

Having just returned from a visit, I can say that things are not as bad there as the media makes. Still a beautiful country and friendly people.

Do you know Tony Bird? A white born in Malawi. Check out his music describing your former home. Especially the songs Rift Valley and Sorry Africa.

I'll try to look into it. Regrettably, I'm not much of a music lover.