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To: Slagle who wrote (16054)	3/28/2007 4:01:59 AM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218328

Slagle, I live in a city situated like a sand castle on a bowl of jello. It's a just a wedge of glacial sand, gravel, and clay bordered by mountains and violent tidal inlets... maps.google.com Most of the city is 50-150 feet above sea level, with coastal bluffs protected from wave erosion by mud flats and marshes. Often I bike and hike along the coast past a half-mile section where the bluff is unprotected from the sea. Each year this area recedes another foot or two as great scallops of earth fall away. One third of my own subdivision collapsed into the sea during the 1964 earthquake. Most of the folks here have no idea what a temporary piece of land this is. A few meters of sea level rise would flood the existing tidal flats and start undermining the entire bluff zone along miles of coast. This place is just an insignificant momentary heel scrape of dirt in the span of geologic time. So when scientists propose a theory that human activity is causing global warming that could destroy my city in a few hundred years, it seems plausible to me. Nature is full of examples where species affect their environments to their own detriment. Why should it be any different with humans? If you don't buy the evidence, that's fine. But normally we do not call a scientific theory a scam when we disagree with it. -Snow

To: Slagle who wrote (16054)	3/28/2007 5:12:36 PM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218328

>>After all, if the earth warmed and the sea level rose at a similar period in the recent past, albeit a period sans offending human activity, the warming observed today is likely a result of the same factors as in the past era, whatever they happen to be.<< Slagle, Why are you assuming that this is a similar period? As Moominoid and Spots discussed, William Ruddiman think we should be in an ice age now according to the normal cycle. But greenhouse gases produced as the result of human activity over the last 8,000 years have tipped the balance toward a warmer Earth... Moominoid's initial mention: Message 23407054 Spots' follow-up: Message 23407156 -Snow