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To: hank2010 who wrote (37829)4/9/2007 8:39:28 AM
From: TheBusDriver  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78419
 
I don't think anything you said in your last post addresses any of the points I made?

10,000 years is pretty much "forever"....and I don't give a damn what Al Gore says. I don't trust him anymore than any other politician.....

I don't think you spent much time reading anything from those links I posted from your response. You think plutonium does not "get in the food chain?" Better think again.

I guess the point is you don't get something for nothing....but I am just a bozo in the end....What do I know?



To: hank2010 who wrote (37829)4/9/2007 10:28:58 AM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78419
 
The best way to treat radioactive waste is to make it into a glass, mixed with cadmium and boron, and then bury it in the Fortress of Solitude where superman can guard it for ever and ever. You may have to remove the Krypton 85.

The Marianas trench, wrapped in nickel/niobium-steel drums has been suggested as a repository for radio waste.

Another fairly safe place is in a relativey deep mine (1000 feet) in the permafrost in the CDN shield. Shield areas having been siesmically stable for 1.8 billion years, and are a safe bet to stay stable for the 100,000 years it takes the waste to decontaminate. The extremely low corrosion of the permafrost guarantees no degradation of even low grade steel drums, and no need to keep the mine pumped out. The drums need not be stacked far apart, as there is relatively little heating effect from oxidized and glassified radio elements. Stacks of drums of U3O8 barely kick a scintillometer.

EC<:-}



To: hank2010 who wrote (37829)4/9/2007 10:56:34 AM
From: E. Charters  Respond to of 78419
 
The number of lbs. of waste from a burnt material equals the number of lbs. of the original material. Dalton discovered that.

The Law of conservation of matter of non nuclear reactions -- one could say.

However I think you mean the amount of waste that tends to disseminate or in other words the amount of gas, say CO2 and water produced. NOx and unburnt hydrides are pollutants and cannot be totally ignored of course..

In the case of ethanol and gasoline CO2 and water production approaches 97%. The water vapour does not fall far from the stack/exhaust.

C2H5OH Produces 2 CO2, and 3H2O, so the ratio is 88 to 22 or 4 times as much carbon dioxide as water production by weight.

Wood is C6H10O5 so produces 6 CO2, 5 H2O, for a ratio of 2.93 to one gas to water. Ash in wood is high. (The Ash tree itself may be 30%+ solids when burnt, hence the name.) Wood is 25 per cent water chemically, not including the water soaked into the cells. So wood is technically 40% water upon combusion.

Coal is mostly carbon and about 15% methane depending on its composition. Inert materials may comprise 10%. So coal is 87.75% CO2 gas on combustion and the rest is water and ash.

Hydrogen is the cleanest burning fuel and one of the safest in terms of freedom from explosion, altough very difficult to contain. All it produces on combusion is water. Something to think about. A hydrogen economy would produce little greenhouse gas if the energy to produce hydrogen were generated by flowing water, wind, sun, geothermal and tides/waves.

EC<:-}