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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (107438)4/12/2007 1:17:30 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
I do think Imus's comments today will get next to zero airplay. ""When is Sharpton gonna apologize to the Duke lacrosse team?" That cost the 3 families around $1,000,000 each in atty fees so far. The Rutgers girls will probably land a movie deal.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (107438)4/12/2007 6:07:46 PM
From: Freedom Fighter  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070
 
I agree that it was slimy comment because there was no reason to target those girls. So I have no problem with people saying that, explaining why, and trying to enlighten Imus and his listeners. I have a problem with anything beyond that.

However, I disagree about Ann Coulter. Personally I don't agree with everything that Ann Coulter says, but I do agree with a lot of it. One difference between her and most other people is that she is willing to say things that some people would hold their tongue about specifically because they are sensitive to the feelings of others or are afraid to get targeted by the "PC police". She doesn't seem to care. What really sets her apart is that she purposely says things in as offensive a way as is humanly possible to get people riled up. It's her own form of comedy/way of entertaining the hard right. She is specifically going to the far edge to upset the left (people like you) as much as possible. That's the joke.

After 9/11 she called for the US to simply go to the Middle East and convert all the Muslims to Christianity. I was laughing my ass off that people took those comments seriously. I still read articles about that where people think she really meant it. If fact, she made fun of the people that didn't "get it" back then in another recent column and they still probably don't get it. It's comical.

It's not all that different than what Bill Maher does with Bush, Cheney and the rest of the far right. I disagree with Maher more often than Coulter, but he cracks me up even when I disagree and being offensive because I know what he's doing and why. He's playing to the far left and trying to piss the right off as much as possible.

It's that people "don't get it" that causes the problem.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (107438)4/12/2007 6:28:25 PM
From: Freedom Fighter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
"If someone on a sports show had called the U of Florida or Ohio State mens' basketball teams a bunch of flaming fairy prostitutes, I think the outrage would have been the same"

I think you are probably right about that. But IMO it would be a foolish reaction if the source was the Imus show, Howard Stern, Opie and Anthony, Southpark etc... vs. someone on Sports Center. IMO, the context of the comment is extremely important in determining whether people should be offended, laughing, or just changing the channel because they don't like that form of humor. That distinction is something that seems to go over the head of some people.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (107438)4/12/2007 7:07:27 PM
From: Freedom Fighter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
KT,

Coulter didn't actually call John Edwards a faggot. She said she didn't want to be sent to rehab for using the word faggot. That was an obvious joke about Edwards views on the war because an actor had just been sent to rehab for using that word and it is generally associated with less macho characteristics. She made it even clearer that it was joke when she apologized to the homosexual community for associating them with John Edwards.

She did "her thing".

What she was saying was that Edwards is an appeaser that would lack the courage to go to war and take casualities under almost any circumstances and not just in Iraq now.

However, saying it that way wouldn't be very funny to the far right, people that think sending an actor to rehab for saying that word was idiotic, or very timely given that no one had recently been sent to rehab for calling someone an appeaser.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (107438)4/13/2007 1:44:46 AM
From: Madharry  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
When I lived in ny i used to listen to imus all the time. I dont listen to him anymore, but I can see how he would use that kind of language depending upon his particular mood. He can be a nasty sob. I just dont think he would have been fired had he made a similar comment about some asian group for example. I dont recall the same opinions coming from political leaders and Al Sharpton after Mel GIbsons inebriated comments. I am still annoyed that Jimmmy the Greek got fired after his comments about why blacks were superior athletes, which were made completely without malice.