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To: roguedolphin who wrote (4918)	4/12/2007 3:46:59 PM
From: the navigator	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50502

I watched the entire Tarpley lecture. It was interesting as there are so many unanswered questions. My biggest doubts regarding the "official" explanation, is the claim that a large jetliner hit the Pentagon. However, if it was a missile and not a plane, no one seems to be able to answer the next obvious question, what happened to the plane and the people? I've not heard a good answer to that, even in the abstract.

To: roguedolphin who wrote (4918)	4/12/2007 4:28:09 PM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50502

Rogue, I watched it and came away amazed but felt it was completely credible and possible. This, imo, is so hot that some maybe afraid to respond. (grin) Jim

To: roguedolphin who wrote (4918)	4/12/2007 5:15:44 PM
From: praha4	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50502

forget your medication today? yes something "ominous" has occurred, its not the 9-11 planned demolition scenario at the World Trade Center towers alleged by those who lack any knowledge of metallurgy, materials science or structural engineering. They play the same old movies on the internet, showing dust billowing out of lower floor windows at WTC-1 and 2 as the towers collapsed, screaming, "There's the proof of planted demolitions to take down the towers!" we've seen it all before, and it has all been explained by demolition experts, metallurgists, and others with no axe to grind. instead of focusing on this old story, better to look at how the term ominous describes the future scenario we face in Iraq and the mideast while following this arrogant, pompous cowboy in the White House. the volunteer Army and Marine Corps is broken, now the Pentagon is extending Iraq tours to 15 months playing wack-a-mole in Iraq, supporting a splintered, corrupt regime in Baghdad, while Cheney and Bush and their FoxNoise surrogates and chicken-hawk neocon buddies try to whip up jingoistic fever across the land. now Turkey is rattling sabres about the Kurds in northern Iraq, while Iran stokes the Sunni-Shiite hatred and breeds their own form of Hezbollah to run Iraq after we are gone. in the mideast game of chess, the U.S. brought out its Queen way too early thinking it had an easy checkmate, and now as we move from the middle game toward the endgame, Iran has our Queen on the defensive. This Iraq operation has been a disaster for US foreign policy. Those on the right taunt the left by saying "well be ready to accept responsibility for the consequences if we leave too early, cuz they will follow us home". And both the left and right have us in a no-win scenario, cuz neither side will ask the country for sacrifice, in the hopes of winning elections. Elections will matter little in the unfolding scenario, cuz it won't matter who we elect to the White House when the American public doesn't want to ante' up for the real cost of a war. Absent the necessary sacrifice by its people, remaining divided, a country cannot stand forever. the U.S. must adopt the strategy of the Roman Empire and buy off the barbarians with money and gold, or fight them, and our society lacks the will to carry on Bush's war. So it doesn't leave many options except get the hell out of the mideast and leave their oil behind, and live with the consequences. so move on from 9-11 conspiracies and debate the real issues we face today. praha4