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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (17128)4/15/2007 1:10:41 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 218000
 
I applaud your posting: discuss investing rather than debating history. look carefully
at history in order to understand the political-economic
background of today. again correct!

Thanks

Elmat



To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (17128)4/15/2007 6:43:36 AM
From: energyplay  Respond to of 218000
 
There is an election in France April 22, with second round in early May. Three options, Royale, socialist, Sarkonzy, center rightist, and this middle guy, plus Le Pen and about 8 others.

Nice summary in the Econmist.

Any ideas how to make money on this ?



To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (17128)4/15/2007 8:06:52 AM
From: Slagle  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 218000
 
Seeker,
Where did I state that Roosevelt "should have ignored the attack on Pearl Harbour"? I didn't say that.

For OVER A YEAR before Pearl Harbour the US Navy had been at war with Germany in the Atlantic, with American destroyers going after German subs and American warships serving as escorts for British convoys.

This was done in secret and illegally but cover was provided, as we now know, by Wendell Wilkie, the 1940 Republican candidate who, against the wishes of his party and the vast majority of the country at large, had an agreement with FDR to avoid making an issue of FDR's attempts to bring the country to war.

But try as he might, Germany wisely did not take the bait and counterattack or declare war, at least till after Pearl Harbour.

In the Pacific, what Roosevelt did was instruct Cordell Hull to make impossible demands upon Japan the basis for American consideration of any Japanese demand.

In August 1941, Roosevelt illegally froze all Japanese accounts in the US, then immediately left on one of his famous "fishing trips" and then lied to the press about his actions upon his return, when some details of his action had become public. This made it impossible for Japan to obtain oil and other strategic imports anywhere in the world, and so a Japanese attack was provoked, as was the intention.

Roosevelt had worked tirelessly for years to bring the country to war, and finally he succeeded.

And Germany had to declare war after Pearl Harbour because of German treaty obligations to Japan.

You want something that applies to the current situation? Notice the similarities with the method used to justify the Iraq invasion. Likewise, study Woodrow Wilson's 1916 reelecton campaign where he ran as the "peace candidate" all the while making secret plans to bring the country to war. Some things never change.
Slagle