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To: Lou Weed who wrote (227243)	4/16/2007 8:24:21 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

"I would love to see what the difference in expenditure between the two lobbies is." You have to wonder, just how much of the billions of tax dollars we ship to Israel every year just circle back to buy our politicians?

To: Lou Weed who wrote (227243)	4/17/2007 12:29:48 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

What would be most interesting is a comparison between the $$$ spent on AIPAC vs the Saudi lobby...I bet I know who wins that one, esp. if you add in all the high-priced consultants it hires who used to work for State.... Arabs have never understood US support for Israel. Never. We have the oil, why don't they support us? The basic fact is the Americans are much closer to Israelis in culture and values, both self-made democratic countries that value freedom, opportunity, smarts and guts. So they are natural allies. Which of values of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia do Americans admire?

To: Lou Weed who wrote (227243)	4/17/2007 4:43:02 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

$$$$$$$$ is what it takes. I would love to see what the difference in expenditure between the two lobbies is. Colossal would probably be an understatement. Sure, the actual expenditure of AIPAC is much higher than whoever lobbies for the Palestinians. That's probably because the pro-Israeli AIPAC donors want what they want more. The resources of the pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel crowd are probably much, much higher than the pro-Israel crowd. Lets see, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE have something like 30% of the world's known petroleum reserves. Who's side do you think they are on? The so called pro-Palestinian crowd has way more resources that the pro-Israeli crowd, but they'd rather spend their money on the 4 year old 34th prince's birthday party and the 2nd royal cousin twiced removed's private jet weekend excursion to London. They find other stuff to do with their money than lobby for the Palestinians. That's their choice. You shouldn't begrudge AIPAC because its supporters are willing to put their money where their mouth is while their opposition is not.